What’s actually driving your life right now?

In this powerful and deeply personal episode, Meredith Brock and Kaley Olson sit down with Bible teacher and author Megan Fate Marshman to unpack one of Jesus’ most sobering teachings: the narrow road vs. the wide road.

But this isn’t just about salvation — it’s about how we’re living every single day.

If you’ve ever felt exhausted trying to “do all the right things,” or quietly wondered if you’re missing something in your relationship with God … this conversation will meet you right there.

Megan brings clarity, conviction, and incredible hope as she reminds you: Following Jesus isn’t about striving harder — it’s about knowing Him and letting Him know you.

You’ll learn:

Why you can follow Jesus … and still find yourself on the “wide road.”
The subtle difference between knowing about God and actually knowing Him.
How striving, perfectionism, and performance can quietly replace relationship.
What it really means to live on the narrow road (without burnout).
The one question that reveals what your life is actually built on.

Resources From This Episode:

Relaxed by Megan Fate Marshman.
If you’ve been living under pressure — trying to get it right, do more, and be better — this book will help you experience a different way: one rooted in God’s presence, not your performance.
She Speaks Conference (July 16-18, Charlotte, NC).
If you know God is working in your life and you feel the nudge to share it, don’t ignore that. Join us for a weekend that will equip and encourage you to step into your calling with confidence.
Download a transcript of this episode.

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Whether you're someone who believes you have let God down or you've carried wounds from your earthly father that make it hard to trust your heavenly One, this conversation will meet you right where you are.