"Don't be cleverer than your reader," says stand-up comic and writer Amy Silverberg– meaning, always try surprising yourself when creating your art! In this amusing and intelligent conversation, Tony and Amy discuss the short story and stand-up forms in tandem. Silverberg's stories have been published in The Best American Short Stories series, Paris Review, Granta, among other top journals; her stand-up can be viewed here and on Comedy Central, Hulu, NPR, and Amazon Prime.