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George Conway, president of the Society for the Rule of Law, and Liz Oyer, former Department of Justice pardon attorney, talk with Jen Psaki about the myriad flaws and shortfalls in the Trump Justice Department's case against former FBI director James Comey.

New files turned over from the estate of Jeffrey Epstein to the investigators with the House Oversight Committee contain the names of close associates of Donald Trump. Rep. Ro Khanna talks with Jen Psaki about the ongoing pressure campaign to release the Epstein legal documents.

The coming vote in California on Prop 50, redistricting to counter the Texas gerrymander meant to help Trump retain power over Congress through the midterm election, has brought a wave of advertising both for and against the measure. Jen Psaki takes a closer look at how those ads are being paid for and finds the two sides are not the same.

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