In this LeaderChat episode, Jennifer Brown, author of The Shape of Change, joins the conversation to explore what change does to engagement and why motivation often drops in uncertainty. She shares how identity shifts, low energy, and lack of clarity can quietly disconnect people from their work, and what leaders can do to re-engage and motivate others in the middle of it. It's a practical look at how clarity, connection, and intentional leadership behaviors create strong engagement, even when the future feels uncertain.