Most leaders say they want learning.
Most organisations reward certainty.
In this bonus episode, Aoife translates one of the most easily-missed tensions from her conversation with Amy Edmondson: psychological safety doesn’t fail because leaders don’t care, it fails because leaders underestimate how strongly the system nudges people towards silence, agreement, and self-protection.
This isn’t about being “nice”, creating comfort, or running better meetings.
It’s about what your operating model reinforces under pressure:
If you’re not hearing dissent, uncertainty, or bad news, it’s not because it isn’t there. It’s because it’s being managed — often for you.
Where might your system be rewarding agreement while you’re asking for learning?
Stop asking “Do people feel safe?” and start asking: “What does our system make risky and who pays the price for speaking the truth?”
Connect with Aoife O’Brien | Host of Happier at Work®:
Connect with Amy Edmondson | World-renowned Expert in Psychological Safety:
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About Happier at Work
Happier at Work is the podcast for business leaders who want to create meaningful, human-centric workplaces. Hosted by Aoife O’Brien, the show explores leadership, career clarity, imposter syndrome, workplace culture, and employee engagement — helping you and your team thrive.
If you enjoy podcasts like WorkLife with Adam Grant, The Happiness Lab, or Squiggly Careers, you’ll love Happier at Work.
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Editing by Amanda Fitzgerald.
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