Today, the wonderful Emma Kirk-Odunubi is back with us. If you heard her main episode, you’ll know she’s a 15-time marathon runner, coach and all‑round running legend – but today, we’re finding out the three things she simply cannot live without. We talk about why the most important part of running might happen when you’re not running at all, why it’s sometimes not just okay but wise to skip a run, and how “forwards is a pace” became Emma’s mantra on and off the road. This is a gorgeous, grounding conversation for anyone who needs permission to slow down, be kinder to themselves, and still call themselves a runner.
BOOKS DISCUSSED IN THIS EPISODE
Emma’s book, Find Your Pace, is available from 5th February 2026.
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CREDITS:
Host: Bryony Gordon
Guest: Emma Kirk-Odunubi
Producer: Laura Elwood-Craig
Assistant Producer: Sam Rhodes
Studio Manager: Sam Chisholm
Editor: Luke Shelley
Exec Producer: Jamie East
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