In this episode, John and I got to do a real deep-dive with Elon. We discuss the economics of orbital data centers, the difficulties of scaling power on Earth, what it would take to manufacture humanoids at high-volume in America, xAI’s business and alignment plans, DOGE, and much more.
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Timestamps
00:00:00 - Orbital data centers
00:36:46 - Grok and alignment
00:59:56 - xAI’s business plan
01:17:21 - Optimus and humanoid manufacturing
01:30:22 - Does China win by default?
01:44:16 - Lessons from running SpaceX
02:20:08 - DOGE
02:38:28 - TeraFab