Season 4, Episode 1 is coming in hot after a long break—and we couldn’t have picked a better way to come back. Logan and Jake Paul’s mom sits down with me for a raw, unfiltered conversation you won’t expect. What starts as a story about raising two of the most famous brothers on the internet opens into untold moments, hard truths, and the real story behind her bold new book F the Pauls. We go deeper than we ever thought we would.
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Chapters:
00:00 Juicy Book & Going Deeper
02:10 Why She Made These Choices
03:55 Meeting Pam Stepnick
06:40 Raising Kids in the Public Eye
09:30 Fame Came Faster Than We Expected
12:45 Being a Mom While the World Watched
16:05 The Cost of Internet Fame
19:30 Divorce and Personal Responsibility
23:40 Guilt, Regret, and Forgiveness
27:10 Losing Control as a Parent
30:55 Letting Go of Your Kids
34:20 Faith When Life Falls Apart
37:50 Questioning God in Hard Seasons
41:10 God Never Left Me
44:45 Learning to Trust Again
48:30 Why She Wrote the Book
52:10 Reliving Pain Through Writing
56:00 Advice for Struggling Parents
59:40 Letting Your Kids Be Themselves
1:03:20 Faith Isn’t About Control
1:07:10 What I’d Do Differently
1:10:45 Message to Logan & Jake
1:15:00 Healing Takes Time
1:18:30 Final Thoughts on Purpose & Faith