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British Politician #49 - Katie Lam - Def...

Liv Boeree
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Britain was once a beacon of liberty, and the birthplace of the industrial revolution. So why is its economy floundering, while the USA is surging? Has a culture of extreme bureaucracy turned the former global powerhouse into a stagnant "nanny state"?

My guest today is Katie Lam, a Member of Parliament willing to speak uncomfortable truths. From the grooming gangs scandal, to anarcho-tyranny, to an environmental planning system that prioritises newts over nuclear electricity, we learn how an inappropriate fear of risk is suffocating the British soul.

We also tackle one of the most difficult conversations facing the West today: the failure of multicultural integration, and why the fear of being labeled "racist" has allowed unspeakable crimes like child grooming gangs to go unpunished for so long. Lastly, we hear her inside view on political rivalries (and friendships!), and how politicians can harness the power of competition and cooperation to generate real meaningful change.

So if, like me, you’re concerned about the creeping loss of adult agency, and righting institutional wrongs, I highly recommend this episode!

Chapters:

01:58 - Introduction

02:20 - UK vs US economies

03:49 - Is British Decline Systemic, or Cultural?

12:41 - When did the Nanny State Begin?

17:19 - Overregulation and Norma

20:24 - Reduction of Personal Freedoms

24:31 - The National Health Service (NHS)

29:51 - Consequences of Unexamined Laws

32:03 - Britain's Energy Policy & Nuclear Power

47:27 - Bravery and Honesty in Politics

50:55 - The Grooming Gangs Disaster

1:04:15 - Bad incentives for crime

1:14:28 - Culture and society

1:37:44 - How to Keep Talent in the UK?

1:48:48 - How to Make Britain an AI Leader?

1:53:50 - Quality of outcome on Brexit

1:57:29 - Parliament from the Inside

2:12:46 - Axioms to Live By

2:15:04 - Competition within politics

Links:

♾️ Katie’s Website: https://www.katieforkent.com/

♾️ Katie’s Grooming Gang Parliament Full Speech: https://youtu.be/suD-kWU45uw?si=bV0EgAngiSea_QPD&t=658

♾️ Nuclear Power “Fish Disco” article: https://www.cityam.com/labour-to-hold-fire-on-fish-disco-nuclear-power-reform-due-to-legal-advice/

♾️ Katie’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katieforkent/?hl=en

♾️ Related Win-Win interview with Dominic Cummings -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boIi7cAPPnY

Credits:

♾️ Hosted by Liv Boeree

♾️ Produced by Luca de Vico

The Win-Win Podcast:

Poker champion Liv Boeree takes to the interview chair to tease apart the complexities of one of the most fundamental parts of human nature: competition. Liv is joined by top philosophers, gamers, artists, technologists, CEOs, scientists, politicians and more to understand how competition manifests in their world, and how to change seemingly win-lose systems into Win-Wins.

Podcast links:

♾️ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWgq0OZMtwtOIyMsVM_vksqdfWcM-b68S

♾️ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/03bGVUaFZmJUmEvSHNDPdI?si=64379cc23696454f

♾️ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/win-win-with-liv-boeree/id1724791350

♾️ Pocketcast: https://play.pocketcasts.com/podcasts/7f708340-d17c-013b-f46e-0acc26574db2

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