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Nov 21
43m 11s

Suicide or Murder? The Mysterious Death ...

Dr. Phil McGraw
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In this episode, Dr. Phil breaks down the Philadelphia Medical Examiner's new 32-page report that again rules Ellen Greenberg's death a suicide—despite 23 stab wounds, including several to the back of her head and neck.

Ellen's parents, Josh and Sandy, join Dr. Phil and crime expert Nancy Grace to challenge the ruling and expose contradictions they say investigators continue to overlook. Dr. Phil explains why Ellen showed none of the behavioral red flags typically associated with suicide, while Nancy Grace raises questions about "wrong-way" blood evidence, unexplained bruising, and concerns about the same office re-reviewing its own work.

The conversation dives into disputed psychological findings, the fiancé's 911 call, and why Ellen's family believes an independent federal investigation is the only path to justice.

Ellen's parents make one thing clear: they're not giving up.

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