What does true transformation look like in a world scarred by systemic oppression? In this powerful dialogue between Pastor Derwin and Archbishop Joseph, we discover how India's ancient caste system reveals the devastating impact of theological frameworks that dehumanize God's image-bearers. Archbishop Joseph shares his remarkable journey of awakening when 500 million "untouchables" sought liberation through Christ, forcing him to radically reimagine how the Gospel speaks to those crushed by generational oppression. Rather than focusing on traditional Western evangelistic approaches emphasizing sin and the afterlife, he found that these communities needed to hear first about a loving Creator who made them in His image. This fresh perspective on the Gospel demonstrates how God's kingdom breaks down walls of prejudice and creates new communities of dignity and belonging. Through their conversation, we see how Jesus' message of grace dismantles both American racism and Indian casteism, calling the Church to embody Revelation 5:9's vision of every nation, tribe, and tongue united in Christ. Their urgent challenge to us: Will we allow the Gospel to transform not just individual lives, but entire social systems that deny human dignity?
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