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Oct 7
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It’s the Economy, Stupid. It’s the Stupi...

THE LINCOLN PROJECT
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Imagine the Roaring Twenties, but with cable news, Bitcoin, and orange hair. In an exclusive first-out interview, Andrew Ross Sorkin joins Rick to discuss his new book '1929: Inside the Greatest Crash in Wall Street History--and How It Shattered a Nation' (out 10/14/25), which shows the collision course between Wall Street excess and regulatory failure that sparked the Great Depression. Today, Trump’s tariff tantrums are gutting supply chains, midwestern farmers are losing land, inflation is gobbling up paychecks, and the rich are floating above it all. If the Dow falling hard looks familiar, that’s because history is being regurgitated on fast forward — and MAGA’s version is dumber, uglier, and louder.




You can find Andrew Ross Sorkin @andrewrsorkin on X, and pick up his new book “1929: The Inside Story of the Greatest Crash in Wall Street History," wherever fine books are sold.

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