In this episode, Brian and Hope sit down with spiritual guide, Reiki Master, and plant medicine facilitator Shellee Rae, who has been supporting people in their healing and awakening journeys since 1998. Together, they dive deep into the world of plant medicine, specifically Ayahuasca, and how it serves as a catalyst for profound transformation.
Shellee shares her own powerful story of sobriety, her unexpected calling to Ayahuasca, and how she overcame the fears and stigma around working with this sacred medicine. She explains the origins of the brew, the importance of safe facilitation, and how the medicine meets each person exactly where they are — sometimes with gentleness, sometimes with fierce intensity.
The conversation explores:
The healing potential of Ayahuasca and how it differs from other plant medicines.
Why safety and trauma-informed facilitation are crucial, especially in a field full of both authentic healers and unsafe, untrained guides.
Integration as at least 50% of the work — how to carry the lessons into everyday life, relationships, and community.
The role of music, ritual, and safe space in opening people to deep release and transformation.
Who this medicine is for — and who it may not be safe for.
Brian and Hope also share their own awakenings with Ayahuasca, including healing from addiction and shifting long-held survival patterns. Together with Shellee, they highlight how plant medicine can strip away old identities, trauma imprints, and protective masks, revealing deeper freedom, connection, and authenticity.
This is a raw, honest, and heart-opening conversation about the challenges, risks, and profound gifts of walking the path with Ayahuasca — and how to discern safe spaces, honor the medicine, and commit to the lifelong integration process.
Shellee Rae’s Books: