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Sep 22
1h 27m

ACOTAR: Archeron Family Deep Dive - Fae ...

Abby and Ronnie
About this episode

Your favorite deep dive romantasy podcast is back with a look at our favorite human family from Sarah J Maas’s ACOTAR series, the Archerons! Get ready for an episode jam-packed with theories on the Archeron’s abilities, speculations on why Mama Archeron was so terrible, and questions on how much Mama and Papa Archeron really knew about the Fae. You won’t want to miss this episode!


Did the Archeron’s Have a Connection to the Fae?

We start with the romantasy book that started it all -  A Court of Thorns and Roses. Is it possible that the Archeron’s were working with Tamlin the whole time? Why did Papa Archeron tell Feyre to go with Tamlin? And why did Tamlin seem sad when about Mama Archeron's death? We have some wild theories as to how this all could have played out, involving shifting, sentries, and a plan 49 years in the making.

Why did Mama Archeron tell Feyre to protect her sisters?

Does this make any sense, at all? Feyre is the youngest, and Papa Archeron is still alive! Did she know something about Feyre’s future? Why not ask Nesta? None of this really makes any sense!

 

Why did Mama Archeron try so hard to get Nesta to marry a prince? 


Man, this woman has a chip on her shoulder. Why was she so insistent that Nesta marry a prince? Is Cassian actually a prince? Or did Mama Archeron make some kind of bargain with Tamlin, where he could have Feyre as long as Nesta got to marry a prince? Honestly Mama Archeron was so cruel we wouldn’t put it past her.


How did Papa Archeron convince Koschei to release Vassa?

Then we move on to a question that frankly doesn’t get enough attention - how did Papa Archeron, a human man, convince Koschie, a DEATH GOD, to release Vassa? We know he’s a good negotiator, but come on, that’s wild? How did he even find Koschei? This one goes deeeepp into speculation but ends up in a really fun place. 

***SPOILERS FOR SARAH J MAAS’S ACOTAR, THRONE OF GLASS, CRESCENT CITY***

Maasverse: Was Mama Archeron Human?

Signs point to no. There’s something very witchy about this lady, and we don’t mean personality-wise. Her bed is made of ironwood, she only has daughters, she raises her children (Nesta especially) to be cruel and unfeeling - the signs are there! Plus Nesta and Elain both have mental gates of iron - are these sisters ironteeth?

Maasverse: Are there wyrdmarks around the Archeron’s door?

Whorls and swirls galore, babes. Yes, definitely. But the bigger question is - why are there wyrdmarks in Prythian at all, if the Valg have never been here? Could they in fact not be a Valg language at all, but connected to the Daglan? Or have the valg been here the whole time? And did the wyrdmarks actually work? After all, the Archeron’s were protected from Fae harm, just not in the way they thought they would be.

Maasverse: Precog Corner

Things get wild (as per usual) in our precog corner, with Abby speculating on the origin of the  Illyrian tattoos, and Ronnie goes deep into lore about the river Acheron. Happy listening!

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Time Stamps

00:00 Our New and Improved (?) Intro 

07:24 Social Media Shout Outs - Is Grandma Archeron Fae? We'll find out

08:17 How do we feel about the Archerons? Pretty badly 

13:53 Archeron Background + Context

20:22 Do Mama and Papa Archeron have a connection to the Fae?

32:14 Why did Mama Archeron tell Feyre to protect her sisters?

39:14 Why did Mama Archeron think Nesta would marry a prince?

44:28 How did Papa Archeron  free Vassa?

55:46 Maasverse: Was Mama Archeron human?

59:11 Maasverse: It's time to talk about the witches

01:09:14 Maasverse: Why were there wyrdmarks on the Archeron's door?

01:19:43 Precog Corner - Illyrian Tattoos, The River Archeron

01:27:30 trueCrime-intro-high-short.wav

***Spoilers for Sarah J Maas’s ACOTAR***

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