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Sep 15
1h 48m

ACOTAR: Rhys's Family Deep Dive - What R...

Abby and Ronnie
About this episode

Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie are back with our most THEORY PACKED EPISODE YET! Get ready for wild maas-verse connections, intense deep-dives, and mind-bending, universe-defining theories as we dive deep into Rhys's family.

**ACOTAR SPOILERS**

Are Rhys’s Mother and Sister Really Dead?

We start with the deaths of Rhys’s mother and sister. What do we know? Tamlin was there. What don’t we know? Everything else. Look, all we’re saying is that Feyre never actually saw their wings in the study, and big dummy Tam Tam sure is good at shifting people. Are Rhys’s mother and sister really dead, or did Tamlin somehow save them? And if he did save them, why does he still seem so guilt-ridden?

Why Would Rhys’s Mother Give the Weaver the Ring?

Why did Rhys’s mother leave her wedding ring with the weaver? And why does Feyre seem to hear the ring speak to her? Seems pretty unusual for an Illyrian woman to be able to face down a death god and live to tell the tale. What in the Cauldron’s name is going on here?


How did Rhys’s mother seem to know so much about Feyre? 

We round out our ACOTAR section with a parting question about Rhys’s mother - how did she know Feyre’s dress size? (Kidding - kind of!) She seems to have known a lot about Rhys’s future mate. Was she actually seeing the future, or did she just get lucky? Or did it have something to do with all those herbs she ingested to stop her period?


***SPOILERS FOR ACOTAR, THRONE OF GLASS, CRESCENT CITY***

Are Rhys’s Mother and Sister Really Dead? (Take 2)

Then we gear up for our biggest Maas-verse section yet with some truly huge, universe-defining, game-changing theories. We start by revisiting our theories on Rhys’s mothers and sister’s death, this time with Ruhn Danaan involved. Could Ruhn’s mom be Rhys’s sister? Abby isn’t convinced, but Ronnie makes some compelling arguments involving wyrdmarks, shifting, and glamouring. We know that Tamlin can do the last two - is it possible he knows about the wyrdmarks, too?

Why does Feyre’s wedding ring have a six pointed star on it?

Why does this ring basically have a map of Lunathion on it? Could the ring have originally belonged to Silene? Or, does this star connect her to Hypaxia, who used a six-pointed star to (attempt to) summon the dead? Was Rhys's mom a witch?

Is Rhys Starborn? 

Then we get into the REALLY REALLY BIG THEORIES. Is Rhys starborn?  Yes, 100%, and also there’s NO SUCH THING AS STARBORN. IT’S JUST AN ASTERI BLOODLINE. WE KNOW. GAME-CHANGING. MADNESS. Unfortunately, you’ll have to listen to the episode to find out the full details, but we’re 99% on this one guys. 

Is Rhys Valg?

And finally, the other really big questions. IS RHYS VALG? Also yes. But that’s because we think Valg and Asteri might be the same thing. Or maybe he’s a Prince of Hel. Or maybe the Valg are Princes of Hel. There’s a lot of conflicting evidence! 

We round it out with some wild pre-cog corner theories on the wyrd and the void and finish up as per usual with what we're reading. Happy listening!

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Time Stamps:

00:00 Intro

02:53 Our Most Theory - Packed Episode Yet

04:45 ACOTAR Deep Dive

07:28 Announcements - Be nice on socials please!

12:27 Rhys's Family Tree and Background

17:27 What really happened to Rhys's Mother and Sister?

26:37 Why did Rhys's Mother give the Weaver her Ring?

41:11 How did Rhys's Mother seem to know so much about Feyre?

45:08 MAASVERSE Section

47:38 Are Rhys's Mother and Sister really dead? Maasverse Edition

50:48 Is Ruhn's mom Rhys's sister?

57:02 The Star on Feyre's Wedding Ring

01:03:49 Is Rhys Starborn?

01:20:35 Is Rhys Valg?

01:36:26 Precog: Rhys's Connection to the Weaver

01:40:12 Precog: The Void is gonna be mega-important (and there might still  be Valg spiders in Prythian)

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