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Matt Smith: Rethinking College with “The...

James Altucher
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A Note from James

There’s always been debate about whether college is worth it. But what if there’s a better alternative—one that actually prepares you to become the person you want to be? My good friend Matt Smith just wrote a book with Doug Casey called The Preparation. It’s not theory—he’s been putting his own son through it as a real-world experiment. Instead of college, Maxim has spent the past two years learning skills like EMT training, firefighting, building houses, working cattle, and even launching a business. This is a practical roadmap for turning those years of 18–22 into a hero’s journey. I loved this conversation, and I’m sending the book to all of my kids.


Episode Description

James talks with entrepreneur and writer Matt Smith about his new book The Preparation, co-authored with Doug Casey. The book lays out a four-year alternative to college built around “cycles”—three-month intensive experiences designed to build practical skills, personal codes, and real-world wisdom. From earning an EMT license to fighting wildfires, training in Muay Thai, or running a small business, these cycles are designed to help young people become independent, capable, and resilient. James and Matt discuss why the traditional college path often fails, how to build a personal code of values, and why the future belongs to “expert generalists” who know how to learn across disciplines.


What You’ll Learn

  • Why “be, do, have” is a more powerful framework for life than chasing possessions or credentials.
  • How creating a personal code builds self-respect and identity.
  • Why intergenerational relationships matter more than peer validation.
  • How cycles of hands-on learning—from EMT work to entrepreneurship—prepare young people better than a classroom ever could.
  • Why becoming an expert generalist is the best hedge against a future dominated by AI and automation.


Timestamped Chapters

  • [00:00] A Note from James: College vs. alternatives
  • [01:00] Introducing Matt Smith and The Preparation
  • [03:00] Origins of the book and Doug Casey’s vision
  • [05:00] Writing the book for his son Maxim
  • [06:00] Why homeschooling replaced high school
  • [07:00] “Be, Do, Have” explained
  • [09:00] Stacking cycles vs. stacking skills
  • [10:00] Why the book focuses on young men (and how women can adapt it)
  • [11:00] How to build your own cycle
  • [13:00] Why traditional education fails to prepare people for real skills
  • [14:00] Establishing a personal code
  • [16:00] Examples of personal rules for self-respect
  • [18:00] Practicing courage and choosing virtues
  • [20:00] Skills Maxim has gained so far—EMT, chess, horses, firefighting
  • [22:00] Adventures with Doug Casey and small-country nation building
  • [24:00] Maxim’s cycles: EMT work, ranch apprenticeship, wildfire EMT
  • [27:00] Structure, resistance, and learning by doing
  • [28:00] Shelter Institute and learning to build a house
  • [29:00] Entrepreneurship cycle: precision agriculture with drones
  • [31:00] Lessons from entrepreneurship
  • [32:00] Muay Thai training in Thailand
  • [33:00] Cooking school in Florence
  • [34:00] Travel with purpose vs. aimless wandering
  • [36:00] James on biographies and meaningful decisions
  • [37:00] Preparing for AI and the future of work
  • [39:00] Why being an “expert generalist” matters
  • [41:00] Learning how to learn across environments
  • [42:00] The problem with peer-only education
  • [44:00] Intergenerational relationships as mentorship
  • [45:00] What comes after the preparation
  • [47:00] Why the program can work for adults too
  • [49:00] Rethinking retirement as another cycle of preparation
  • [56:00] Matt’s personal growth through writing and learning new skills
  • [58:00] Designing The Preparation as a beautiful, interactive book
  • [59:00] Closing thoughts and sending the book to the next generation


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