On today's show, Alex Golden is joined by Travis Kelce hater, Mike Facci, to discuss what Rick Carlisle had to say on his latest interview with 107.5 The Fan. Then, in segment 2, Alex and Facci bring on Keith Smith of Spotrac and The Front Office Show to discuss the outlook of the 2025-2026 Indiana Pacers. Keith dives into Mathurin's upcoming season and future, the level of belief he has in Andrew Nembhard, why Pascal Siakam raises the floor for the Pacers, Indiana losing #3 of the Bucks in free agency, the Pacers current situation at center and more!