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Today’s Episode:
Late last week, the Israeli security cabinet approved a proposal by Prime Minister Netanyahu to conquer Gaza City, where roughly half the Gazan population resides, and which has been largely untouched by the IDF thus far.
This decision has prompted widespread international backlash, which was already mounting from concerns over a possible food crisis in Gaza. It also comes as more countries move to recognize a Palestinian state, forcing us to grapple with the high price Israel is paying on the global stage for the ongoing Gaza war.
With this in mind, on today’s episode, Dan speaks with Dr. Micah Goodman about whether there’s a difference between winning the war in Gaza and winning the wider, regional war. Is it possible that Israel will need to modify its definition of victory in Gaza in order to emerge victorious in the larger re-shaping of the geopolitics of the Middle East?
Micah Goodman co-hosts, along with Efrat Shapira Rosenberg, the popular Israeli podcast Mifleget Hamachshavot produced by Beit Avi Chai.
00:00 Introduction
05:17 The outcome of war with Iran
08:46 Public opinion on Iran war
13:22 Saudi normalization will split the Israeli right
18:02 The price of normalization
23:10 Who can lead normalization?
24:50 The next Israeli elections
26:53 How does Israel end the war in Gaza?
30:20 Losing the battle to win the war
31:34 Returning the hostages
32:25 Victory in the future versus victory now
34:52 Hamas anticipating Israel’s strategy
CREDITS:
ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor
ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer
MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor
MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing
MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director
GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research
YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer