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Aug 2025
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The Most Closely Watched Trump Firing in...

The New York Times
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For many Americans, the government’s monthly jobs number was a pretty dull statistic — until a few days ago, when President Trump angrily fired the person responsible for producing it, the commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Now, from Washington to Wall Street, many people are wondering whether you can still trust federal statistics if the presi ... Show More
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