This week's episode of the Empire Podcast is all kinds of fantastic. Guest-wise, Chris Hewitt sits down (in person, and on Zoom) with Matt Shakman, director of The Fantastic Four: First Steps, to discuss the FF's debut in the MCU [24:33 - 40:07 approx]; and Sam Rockwell, the cool cat who's Mr. Wolf in The Bad Guys 2. [1:07:02 - 1:19:28 approx] Then, Chris is joined in the podbooth by Helen O'Hara and, now and again, James Dyer for a fun episode in which they discuss actors who've played iconic heroes and villains, run their eyes over the week's movie news (including the state of the summer box office), and review both of the aforementioned movies. Oh, and what the hell is Movie News Mews? And where is it? Enjoy.