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This episode explores the complex relationship between women and motherhood, particularly in the context of infertility. Abby introduces Caroline Harries, who leads a ministry supporting women facing fertility challenges. Caroline shares her personal journey with infertility alongside her husband and emphasizes the importance of identity as daughters of God, regardless of biological motherhood. They address societal pressures and misconceptions about femininity and motherhood, encouraging women to find their worth and purpose in their faith rather than in their ability to conceive. The conversation highlights the need for community support and understanding in navigating the emotional struggles associated with infertility.