In this Archival Episode of "The Mind Shift Podcast," Erwin and Aaron McManus dive into the interconnectedness of creativity and spirituality, sharing insights from their personal journeys and their work at Mosaic - a church that embodies these principles. This episode, explores how creativity flows naturally from a spiritual life and the impact of this blend on personal and community growth. Recorded live in KL, Malaysia.Creativity is the Natural Result of Spirituality: Erwin begins by affirming that creativity is a direct result of spirituality, challenging the notion that churches are traditionally the least creative institutions. He argues that since human beings are inherently created in the image of a creative God, it follows that spirituality should inspire creativity, not stifle it.Challenges of Leadership and Faith: Erwin shares the challenges he faced when founding Mosaic, a church that aligns with his unique leadership style. He discusses the delicate balance of managing fame and family, particularly highlighting a significant moment when a young Aaron questioned his faith. This story underscores the importance of allowing children the space to explore and express their beliefs authentically.The Significance of Hearing God’s Voice: A major part of their discussion focuses on the necessity of being attuned to God’s voice and the role this plays in guiding one’s creative and spiritual journey. Erwin emphasizes that hearing God’s voice is essential not just for personal guidance but also for maintaining vitality within the church’s mission to reach a creatively evolving world.Family and Professional Life Balance: They also touch on the critical aspect of maintaining close family relationships amidst professional demands. Erwin and Aaron share personal reflections on how they manage this balance, stressing the importance of prioritizing family while fulfilling their roles in ministry and leadership.Invitation to Future Gatherings: The conversation concludes with an invitation to listeners to participate in future gatherings at Mosaic Church. This call to action is aimed at those looking to deepen their engagement with a community that values creativity and spirituality intertwined.