Brian Gubernick takes a deeper dive into one of the most powerful lessons shared by ultra-endurance athlete Charlie Engle in his recent interview: “Optimism is true moral courage.”
But this isn't about wishful thinking or “positive vibes only.” This is about forged optimism -- the kind that’s born in the middle of chaos, failure, pain, and pressure. Brian explores what it really means to choose optimism when everything is falling apart -- when your business is struggling, your family is stretched thin, or your confidence is taking hits from every angle.
He unpacks why optimism is more than personality, it’s a leadership stance. It’s a practice. A discipline. A refusal to let doubt silence belief.
Drawing parallels from Charlie’s Sahara expedition, the leadership of Ernest Shackleton, and real-life decisions we make every day, this episode challenges you to ask yourself:
Where am I letting doubt silence my belief?
This is a must-listen if you're leading a business, a team, a family—or simply trying to lead yourself through adversity. Because holding belief when it’s easy is not courage. But when everything’s against you? That’s when optimism becomes your sharpest weapon.
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Brian Gubernick is a visionary leader with over 20 years of diverse business and life experience. Currently the Chief Real Estate Officer for PLACE Inc and Co-Founder of Metrix Masterminds, Brian has held numerous other significant roles in the real estate industry including property investor, Realtor, sales team owner, brokerage operating partner, title/escrow company investor, property management partner, and start-up executive. Brian has also trained and/or personally coached thousands of sales professionals on the tenants of business success, leadership, and personal development.
Brian’s passion for excellence is matched only by his love for family. He resides in Scottsdale, Arizona, with his wife and two daughters. When he’s not creating exceptional real estate experiences or nurturing his entrepreneurial ventures, Brian can be found enjoying quality time with his loved ones.
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