logo
episode-header-image
Jun 2025
1h 10m

Apple in China

JORDAN SCHNEIDER
About this episode
Patrick McGee is the author of Apple in China: The Capture of the World’s Greatest Company. Our discussion led us through a detailed history of Apple’s relationship with China, where iPhone manufacturing became a project of nation-building. Cohosting today is Kyle Chan of the High Capacity Substack. Today, our conversation covers: Why Apple moved prod ... Show More
Up next
Yesterday
Party Time! Jon Czin on US-China in 2025 and 2026
Jon Czin spent years as a top China analyst at the CIA, served as China Director on Biden’s National Security Council, and now works at the Brookings Institution. We talk through: Xi, Trump, and what drove the roller coaster of US-China relations in 2025 Why it feels too quiet ri ... Show More
1h 1m
Jan 17
Richard Danzig on Cyber and AI
Richard Danzig, national treasure, joins the podcast to discuss the national security implications of AI in the cyber context. Do note we conducted this interview in July of 2025. We discuss Richard's excellent paper on AI and cyber you can find here: https://www.rand.org/pubs/pe ... Show More
1h 44m
Jan 17
The China Commission Reports!
The U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission late last year released ⁠its annual report to Congress⁠. ChinaTalk welcomes two commissioners to the pod to discuss. Before joining the Hoover Institution, ⁠Mike Kuiken⁠ spent two decades on the Hill with Senators Schumer and ... Show More
59m 58s
Recommended Episodes
Aug 2023
#161: Apple’s supply chain, China and Vision Pro
Patrick McGee is the FT’s San Francisco correspondent covering Apple and US technology. He was previously in Frankfurt, writing about the Volkswagen scandal and the challenge to German carmakers from electric vehicles and self-driving tech. He joined the Financial Times in 2013 t ... Show More
35m 50s
May 2025
Patrick McGee on the Apple-China Toxic Nexus and Where India Stands
From Steve Jobs’s design obsession to Cold War-like entanglements in China, Apple’s supply chain story is as much geopolitical as it is operational. In this episode of The Morning Brief, hosts Anirban Chowdhury and Dia Rekhi speak with Financial Times’ lead Apple reporter, journa ... Show More
40m 7s
Aug 2025
China, China, China. Breaking Down China’s Tech Surge | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner
Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week, they dive deep into China’s explosive innovation across AI and EVs, the rise of open-source models, lessons for U.S. competitiveness, the real story on tar ... Show More
1h 6m
May 2025
How China Captured Apple — with Patrick McGee
Patrick McGee, an award-winning journalist who spent years covering Apple for the Financial Times, joins Scott to discuss his new book, Apple in China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company. They get into Apple’s entanglement with China, the geopolitical risks tied to its s ... Show More
1h 2m
Sep 2025
Nvidia In Trouble In China Again
The framework of a TikTok deal is finally coming together. Nvidia suffers another major setback in China. Bunch of new AI stuff from YouTube. A coming MacBook with a touchscreen. And a roundup of the reviews of the iPhone Air. U.S. Investors, Trump Close In on TikTok Deal With Ch ... Show More
20m 38s
Jun 2025
OpenAI's Bold Move, Apple’s Next Battle & The Future of Tech
<p><span>In this insightful clip from Market Mondays, Rashad Bilal, Ian Dunlap, and Troy Millings break down one of the most disruptive tech deals of 2024—OpenAI’s $6.5 billion purchase of Johnny Ive’s design company IO. This landmark acquisition signals a major shift in the race ... Show More
21m 22s
Jul 2025
The Geopolitical Fight Over Huawei w/ Yangyang Cheng
Paris Marx is joined by Yangyang Cheng to discuss how Huawei became one of the most powerful companies in China and how current geopolitical narratives distract from the issues at the heart of surveillance capitalism in the US and China.Yangyang Cheng is a Research Scholar in Law ... Show More
54m 5s
Jun 2024
Apple and OpenAI make a deal
The Verge's Nilay Patel, Alex Cranz, and David Pierce discuss takeaways from WWDC, this week's gadget news, and Elon Musk dropping his lawsuit against OpenAI. Further reading: Apple and OpenAI aren’t paying each other yet, says Bloomberg MKBHD interviewed Tim Cook. Tim Cook is ‘n ... Show More
1h 37m
Oct 2024
Can China create a global Android or iOS competitor?
Huawei has launched an upgraded version of its HarmonyOS mobile operating system, which reportedly no longer relies on the Android operating system. It's a bold push from a Chinese firm, but could Huawei's souped up software signal China is ready to bring a challenger to Apple's ... Show More
31m 54s