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Apr 2025
1h 24m

Onyx Storm: Dragons Deep Dive

Abby and Ronnie
About this episode

Your favorite literary chaos agents Abby and Ronnie dive deep into the mysterious Isles and Gods of the Empyrean series in this mind-bending episode! We're finally tackling all those burning questions about the divine powers that shape the Empyrean, and this one gets juicy!

We kick things off with a deep-dive omissions corner about dragon ages. After some detective work with conflicting quotes, we've uncovered that someone is definitely lying about their age (looking at you, Sgaeyl and Tairn)! The math simply doesn't add up.

Then we jump into our main topic - the Isles and the gods! We explore why these mysterious lands aren't on any maps despite surrounding the continent "in every direction." How did Asher visit them all? Was he working with the Irids? And why Asher might have dropped dead of a heart attack at such a young age?

Our deep dive into Unnbriel reveals some fascinating connections between dragons and this bellicose island. Why does Tairn kept cutting off Violet's thoughts? Why does he say he remembers the layout of the city? The evidence is mounting that Tairn has been to Unnbriel before, despite what the Queen claims about not seeing "fire breathers in centuries." 

Our Hedotis analysis gets wild as we uncover some seriously sketchy behavior from Faris and the Triumvirate. From his suspicious red ruby to his purple eyes and complete disregard for his wife's life, something isn't adding up. We present our theory about what might have happened 150 years ago when they razed the entire city and rebuilt it with "intention."

The gifts from Zyhnal provide some of our juiciest theories yet! From Ridoc's kiss on each cheek to Cat's ruby necklace and Xaden's glass box "the size of his foot," we analyze what each might mean for our favorite characters' futures. The symbolism runs deep, and we're convinced these gifts will play crucial roles in upcoming books.

We round it all out with a fascinating discussion about Malek, who might not be the nefarious underworld figure we initially thought. Our analysis of how souls are "commended" to him suggests he's more like a guardian of heaven than a collector of the dead. Plus, we explore the compelling evidence that Violet is touched by multiple gods, with her multi-colored eyes potentially representing an "amalgamation" of divine influence.

In our wildest Precog Corner yet, we theorize about why exactly six dragon eggs are missing when Marlis requested twelve, and what connection this might have to the six gods. We also question whether Tairn might be much, much older than anyone realizes - perhaps old enough to have witnessed events from centuries ago!

Spoilers for the entire Empyrean Series (Fourth Wing, Iron Flame, and Onyx Storm)

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Time Stamps:

00:00 - 05:26: Intro and dragon age discrepancies

05:27 - 12:04: Corrections, omissions, and social media shout-outs

12:05 - 22:38: Why aren't the Isles on maps and how did Asher visit them all?

22:39 - 38:02: Unnbriel and Dunne

38:03 - 52:35: Hedotis and Hedeon

52:36 - 1:16:42: Zehyllna and Zyhnal

1:16:43 - 1:22:14: Loial deep dive

1:22:15 - 1:28:00: Amari deep dive

1:28:01 - 1:37:21: Malek deep dive

1:37:22 - 1:45:13: Precog Corner

1:45:14 - 1:48:25: What we're reading and wrap-up


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