logo
episode-header-image
Jun 2025
40m 30s

120: How To Hedge Against Market Volatil...

Austin Hankwitz and Robert Croak
About this episode

In this week's episode of the Rich Habits Podcast, Robert Croak and Austin Hankwitz share their three favorite strategies to hedge against volatility in 2025.

For the first few minutes of the episode, we're joined by Stephen Sikes, the Chief Operating Office of Public, to get an inside scoop as to how their millions of users are also hedging against volatility!

---

👀 Ready to take your wealth-building journey to the next level? Join the Rich Habits Network and unlock private investment opportunities, 8-hours of video course work, and weekly Zoom calls with us! Click here!

---

🔥 Ready to start earning a 1% match on your Roth IRA? Contribute toward your account on Public, and earn a 1% match on all contributions! Click here!

---

🤝 Connect with likeminded investors on Blossom! No matter your investing style, there's a community for you on Blossom. Click here to get started!

---

🏠 Download the Rich Habits Real Estate Hacks, click here!


⭐ Download our FREE Financial Planner –⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠click here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

⭐ Download our FREE Budgeting Template –⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠click here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

⭐ Earn 4.1% on your savings with a High-Yield Cash Account –⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠click here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

⭐ Trade stocks, options, music royalties and crypto on Public –⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠click here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

⭐ Automatically buy stock where you shop with Grifin –⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠click here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

⭐ Protect your family with term life insurance from Suriance –⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠click here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

⭐ Use code “Spotify” for 15% off our 4-module video course –⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠click here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

⭐ Optimize your portfolio with Seeking Alpha –⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠click here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

---

👤 Explore everything Austin does –⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠click here ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

👤 Explore everything Robert does –⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠click here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

❓ Ask us questions for our Q&A episodes – @richhabitspodcast on Instagram

📬 Inquire about working together – christian@witz.vc

---

Disclosure: A Bond Account is a self-directed brokerage account with Public Investing, member FINRA/SIPC. Deposits into this account are used to purchase 10 investment-grade and high-yield bonds. As of 6/2/25, the average, annualized yield to worst (YTW) across the Bond Account is greater than 6%. A bond’s yield is a function of its market price, which can fluctuate; therefore, a bond’s YTW is not “locked in” until the bond is purchased, and your yield at time of purchase may be different from the yield shown here. The “locked in” YTW is not guaranteed; you may receive less than the YTW of the bonds in the Bond Account if you sell any of the bonds before maturity or if the issuer defaults on the bond. Public Investing charges a markup on each bond trade. See our⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fee Schedule⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Bond Accounts are not recommendations of individual bonds or default allocations. The bonds in the Bond Account have not been selected based on your needs or risk profile. See⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://public.com/disclosures/bond-account⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn more.

Up next
Today
OpenAI's $100B Deal w/ AMD, 2026 Tax Brackets, & Rising Foreclosures
In this week's episode of the Rich Habits Radar, Robert Croak and Austin Hankwitz break down OpenAI's $100B deal with AMD, the newly-released 2026 tax bracket, and the recent rise in foreclosures. ---✅ Ready to start investing? Open a brokerage account on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Public.com/richhab ... Show More
36m 25s
Yesterday
Q&A: Finances For A Growing Family, Quantum Computing, & Post-Grad Jobs
In this week's episode of the Rich Habits Podcast, Robert Croak and Austin Hankwitz answer your questions!---🔥 Ready for a free 1% match on your IRA contribution or rollover? Sign up for Public and take advantage of that, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠click here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠---🏠 Download the Rich Ha ... Show More
41m 3s
Oct 6
138: Your Year-End Money Checklist — Don't Ignore These
In this week's episode of the Rich Habits Podcast, Robert Croak and Austin Hankwitz share their year-end money checklist to save on taxes and ensure wealth building for decades to come. ---💰 Start building a nest-egg for your financial future using Public! The easiest way to sta ... Show More
40m 14s
Recommended Episodes
Sep 2024
6 Growing Stocks With a 4% Dividend Yield; Dollar Tree and Celsius Stock Collapses; Have We Entered Founder Mode? (CELH, DLTR, ABNB, SMCI, NVDA)
The Investing Power Hour is live-streamed every Wednesday on the Chit Chat Stocks YouTube channel at 1:30 PM EST. This week we discussed: (04:49) The Importance of Reviews for Show Growth (08:43) Founder Mode and the Challenges Faced by Airbnb (09:38) Exploring Dividend Growers: ... Show More
1h 2m
Aug 2024
96. Trading Equities and Options 101, Feat. Dan Nathan of CNBC’s Fast Money
Send us a textToday we are joined by Dan Nathan, CNBC Fast Money superstar and co-host of podcasts On the Tape, OK Computer, and Market Call.  After three decades in the industry on both the buy side (at legendary hedge funds like SAC) and the sell side (at firms like Merrill Lyn ... Show More
1h 25m
Apr 2025
156. FX 101, Operation Twist and Yale’s Selling Their ENTIRE $6bn PE Portfolio
Send us a textIn this episode of The Wall Street Skinny, we explore the escalating tension between former President Trump and Fed Chair Jerome Powell, how markets reacted, and what it reveals about the importance of central bank independence. Jen also breaks down "Operation Twist ... Show More
51m 33s
Oct 2024
Talk Your Book: Private Equity Deals with Ted Seides
On today's show, we are joined by Ted Seides, founder of Capital Allocators to discuss his new book, Private Equity Deals: Lessons in investing, dealmaking, and operations from private equity professionals. Thanks to Public for sponsoring this episode! Visit: http://public.com/co ... Show More
39m 18s
Feb 2025
Brian Jacobs on Bond Myths, Tax Strategies, Home-Ownership and Dynamic Investment Strategies for Today's Market | Aptus Capital Advisors | #569
Today’s guest is Brian Jacobs, Portfolio Manager and Investment Strategist with Aptus Capital Advisors. In today’s episode, Brian and I talk about some investing truisms, including the CAPE ratio, home ownership, the ideal bond allocation, tax-efficient strategies and more. We al ... Show More
1h 3m
Oct 2023
Duration Remains Unattractive, Says Veteran High Yield Bond Investor
On todays episode, Craig Manchuck Vice President & Portfolio Manager at Osterweis joins the show for a discussion on the end of the zero interest rate era.  We deep dive into the bond market sell-off over the past 3 years, where to find opportunities in the bond market & the rise ... Show More
1h 12m
Aug 2024
95. Private Equity Deals with Ted Seides, Host of Capital Allocators
Send us a textToday’s episode is for all of you buy side and private markets junkies.  We are joined by Ted Seides, who is the host of the Capital Allocators and Private Equity Deals podcasts, soon to be thrice-published author, and expert in the Alts — the world of hedge funds a ... Show More
54m 4s
Aug 12
Why bonds matter now for every investor
Bonds could be your portfolio’s next secret weapon. In this episode of Stocks in Translation, Schwab Center for Financial Research fixed income strategist director Collin Martin joins host Jared Blikre and Senior Reporter Brooke DiPalma to discuss yield curves, the bond market, a ... Show More
24m 45s
Aug 24
Confronting The CEO Of Robinhood - Why Most Investors Lose Money
Cozy Earth: Go to https://cozyearth.com and use code ICH for 40% off the softest bedding, bath and apparel! Baselane: Head over to https://baselane.com/iced to sign up for Baselane for free and get a $100 cash bonus when you fund your account! Upwork: Visit https://upwork.com rig ... Show More
1h 51m
Aug 28
Nvidia's Earnings Make Investors Antsy & The Retail Battle of Jeans
Episode 658: Neal and Toby discuss Nvidia’s earnings and what it means for AI across the tech industry. Then, OpenAI changes its policies for teenagers and retailers are battling over… Jean campaigns. Neal shares his top numbers from reading a week’s worth of news. Then finally t ... Show More
29m 39s