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May 2025
1h 8m

The A.I. Jobpocalypse + Building at Anth...

The New York Times
About this episode

This week, we dive into Kevin’s recent column about how A.I. is affecting the job market for new graduates, and debate whether the job apocalypse is already here for entry-level work. Then Mike Krieger joins us to discuss the new Claude 4 model, the future of work and the online chatter over whether an A.I. system could blackmail you. And finally, it’s time to open up the case files for another round of Hard Fork Crimes Division.


Guest:

  • Mike Krieger, chief product officer at Anthropic


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