In this episode, Dre sits down with Jennifer Fisher—writer, healer, and ceremony facilitator—for a powerful conversation about creative reinvention and the transformative wisdom of plant medicine.
With over 30 years in the television industry, Jen shares how her identity as a writer became entangled with external pressure and survival-mode success—until plant medicine helped her reconnect with creativity as a sacred expression of spirit. She and Dre reflect on their parallel paths from the entertainment world to the healing arts, and the freedom found in embracing all parts of the self.
Jen opens up about the life-shifting power of empathogens, which quiet the mind’s default network—loosening the grip of ego, old stories, and defenses—and offer a direct experience of connection, compassion, and belonging.
Together, they explore how healing is not about fixing, but about remembering. Remembering who we were before the protective narratives. Before the roles. Before the ache. They speak of ego death, the beauty of intention, and the liberation that comes from allowing both light and shadow to belong.
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