logo
episode-header-image
May 2025
38m 20s

229. Challenge Accepted: Confronting the...

Traci Chernoff
About this episode

Go to https://cozyearth.com and use code HUMANHR for 40% off their best-selling sheets, pajamas, towels, and more. And if you get a post-purchase survey? Let them know you heard about Cozy Earth right here.


In this conversation, Traci Chernoff and Yolanda Slan delve into the critical topic of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DE&I). Yolanda shares her personal journey and passion for DE&I, stemming from her experiences as a woman of color with a hidden disability. They discuss the misconceptions surrounding DE&I, the importance of understanding diversity in a global context, and the role of bias in hiring practices. 


Traci and Yolanda emphasize the need to view individuals as unique rather than as part of a group, clarifying the distinction between DE&I and affirmative action, and expanding the definition of DE&I to include various aspects of identity and experience. Their discussion explores the difference between equity and equality, using relatable analogies to illustrate their points. They also stress on the importance of advocating for oneself while also recognizing the meritocracy in hiring practices. 


This topic challenges the misconceptions surrounding DE&I initiatives and highlights the need for organizations to focus on genuine inclusivity rather than superficial quotas. Their dialogue is filled with humor and insight, making this episode both informative and enjoyable that you wouldn’t want to miss it. 


Chapters

00:00 Introduction to DE&I and Yolanda's Background

02:20 Personal Journey and Passion for DE&I

04:48 Understanding Diversity in Global Contexts

06:44 Misconceptions About DE&I in Business

10:48 The Role of Bias in DE&I

12:50 Clarifying DE&I vs. Affirmative Action

15:20 The Importance of Individuality in DE&I

17:19 Expanding the Definition of DE&I

18:27 Equity and Inclusion in Practice

26:11 Finding the Right Image for DEI Conversations

27:39 Understanding Equity vs. Equality

30:00 Different Modes of Transportation: The Equity Analogy

32:30 Mind Your Business: Advocating for Yourself

34:51 Meritocracy in the Workplace

37:50 Challenging DEI Practices for Improvement


We hope you enjoyed this episode with Yolanda Slan. If you found our discussion insightful, we'd like you to take a moment to rate our podcast. Your feedback helps us grow and reach more listeners who are passionate about these topics. You can also leave a review and tell us what you loved or what you'd like to hear more of - we're all ears!


Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe! Plus, leave a comment if you're catching this episode on Spotify or YouTube.


About Our Guest: 

Yolanda Slan is Televerde’s Chief People Officer. She is an experienced human resources and employment leader with a record of success building and enhancing HR programs in both the private and non-profit sectors. She is passionate about diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI), and she has a deep understanding of talent management strategies which has enabled her to create a positive impact in all of her past positions.


Connect with Yolanda Slan here:

  • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/televerde?goback=%2Ecps_1237136210503_1 

  • Twitter: https://twitter.com/televerde 

  • Blog: http://www.televerde.com/blog/ 

  • Website: http://www.televerde.com/ 


  • Connect with Traci here: ⁠https://linktr.ee/HRTraci⁠


    Disclaimer: Thoughts, opinions, and statements made on this podcast are not a reflection of the thoughts, opinions, and statements of the Company by whom Traci Chernoff is actively employed.


    Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products or services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

    Up next
    Nov 18
    253. Policy Pulse: New Leadership, Rollbacks, and What HR Needs to Know
    <p>This month&#39;s Policy Pulse episode with Traci and co-host Bryan Driscoll is packed with the compliance updates every HR leader needs heading into 2026. With new EEOC leadership officially in place, federal enforcement is shifting, state protections are becoming more critica ... Show More
    43m 40s
    Nov 11
    252. From At-Will to Employee-First: Navigating Canadian Hiring Successfully feat. Laura Tolhoek
    This week, Traci welcomes Laura Tolhoek, founder and principal consultant at Essential HR, where she leads a team delivering clear, results-focused solutions to businesses facing HR challenges across Canada. With her CHRL designation and over 20 years of experience, Laura special ... Show More
    36m 2s
    Nov 4
    252. How Smart Employers Are Protecting Half Their Workforce feat. Cigna’s Wendy Sherry
    This week, Traci welcomed Wendy Sherry, Chief Executive Officer for Global Health Benefits within International Health at Cigna Healthcare, overseeing healthcare delivery to more than 3,700 clients in over 250 countries.With 30 years at Cigna spanning multiple leadership roles, W ... Show More
    34m 22s
    Recommended Episodes
    Dec 2024
    Proven Strategies for Building an Audiology Team That Excels in Patient Care | Liz Wiseman
    Leaders, including those in audiology, often overburden or underutilize their teams. This can lead to burnout, poor performance, and stagnation. Liz Wiseman, who became a leader at just 24 in a rapidly growing company, faced leadership challenges early in her career. Through obse ... Show More
    42m 13s
    May 2025
    Leading Through Chaos With Stephanie Chung 7 | 22
    Leadership sounds empowering—until you're navigating chaos, clunky systems, and a team giving you major side-eye. Amy and Kim talk with Stephanie Chung—trailblazing exec, leadership strategist, and accidental trust-builder—about the messy reality of stepping into high-stakes role ... Show More
    50m 57s
    Jul 2025
    The Power of Feedback: Building Trust and Leadership
    Lauren Fast, chief people officer at iS Clinical, highlights the critical role of feedback, empathy, and trust in today’s workplace. Fast discusses how HR leaders can navigate challenges like layoffs, cost reductions, and employee disengagement while maintaining cultural alignmen ... Show More
    30m 15s
    Mar 2025
    #231: Chrissy Taylor, President and CEO of Enterprise Mobility – Your people are your secret sauce
    What if I told you your biggest competitive advantage is something you’ve already got? For Chrissy Taylor, the President and CEO of Enterprise Mobility, the 90,000 people who work at her company are what she calls “her secret sauce.” And in today’s episode, you’ll learn how to ... Show More
    57m 31s
    Jul 2025
    364: Reclaim Your Power and Lead with Confidence with Dr. Sharon Melnick
    Do you constantly feel overwhelmed by your leadership role? Are you always reacting to everyone else’s agenda instead of creating your own?What if you could reclaim your power and lead confidently through any situation? Today’s guest reveals exactly how to make that shift.Meet Dr ... Show More
    31m 9s
    Oct 2024
    227: Building Confidence and Courage at Work with Ellen Taaffe
    How can you overcome perfectionism and people pleasing at work?In the latest episode of the Happier at Work podcast, I sat down with the extraordinary Ellen Taaffe to delve deep into the intricacies of women's leadership and personal growth. Ellen, with her vast experience spanni ... Show More
    39m 52s
    Apr 2024
    Episode 291: Rockstar Recruitment: Melissa May's Approach to Network Marketing Success
    Hello, listeners, and welcome to an inspiring episode of Women Inspiring Women. Today, I&apos;m excited to introduce Melissa May, a network marketing leader who left her corporate career to build a legacy of financial freedom while being present for her family.Melissa May has bee ... Show More
    44m 39s
    Jan 2025
    617: Adam Galinsky - How To Inspire Others, Build a Team, Speak Up For Yourself, Thrive Through Adversity, & Become Their Favorite Boss
    <p>Go to www.LearningLeader.com for full show notes for episode #617 with Adam Galinsky</p> <p>Notes:</p> <ul> <li><span style="font-weight: 400;">10 Words - "We are not going down. We are going to Philly." The composure of pilot Tammy Jo Shults after the side of her airplane exp ... Show More
    55m 36s
    Mar 2025
    178 - The CEO Playbook for Leading Change and Overcoming Resistance in 2025 with Nellie Wartoft
    <p>Want to establish authority and lead with confidence from Day One as a CEO? Grab your FREE copy of “10 Foolproof Ways New CEOs Establish Authority From Day One” and start leading with confidence today!</p> <p>👉 Download Now -<a href='https://bit.ly/10-foolproof-ceo-strategies ... Show More
    40m 36s