On this episode of “Interesting Times,” Ross Douthat interviews Vice President JD Vance about the Trump administration’s deportations, the tariff backlash and how Vance’s faith influences his politics.
- 01:49 - How faith shapes JD Vance’s politics
- 04:26 - ‘Papal interventions in politics’
- 14:44 - How will the Trump administration measure success on immigration?
- 21:22 - ‘The courts are trying to overturn the will of the American people’
- 23:55 - Are migrants really at war against the US?
- 28:48 - The parallels between the War on Terror and Trump's deportation policies
- 40:29 - What does a successful trade policy look like?
- 48:10 - The "big, beautiful bill"
- 58:57 - Does the Trump administration expect the AI revolution will take jobs?
- 54:05 - What worries Vance about AI
- 58:33 - JD Vance's message to shocked Trump voters
(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)
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