In this episode of the Gotta Be Saints Podcast, I sit down with Rosemary McGuire Berry—Catholic author, pilgrimage leader, and storyteller—for a conversation that’s both practical and inspiring. Her new book, Piety and Personality: The Temperaments of the Saints, explores the ancient concept of temperaments and how understanding our personalities can lead us to holiness.

Together, we discuss how the saints lived out virtue through their unique temperaments, and how we can do the same in our homes, marriages, work, and spiritual lives. This episode is full of wisdom, saintly stories, and encouragement for anyone seeking to better understand themselves—and become the saint they are called to be.

Topics Covered:

What the four classical temperaments are—and how to recognize them
Why your temperament is not a weakness to fix, but a gift to develop
How Jesus perfectly embodies all four temperaments
Real-life examples of saints like St. Teresa of Ávila, St. Thomas More, St. Thomas Aquinas, and St. Francis de Sales
Why understanding your temperament (and your spouse’s or child’s!) can radically improve relationships
The battle against discouragement and how to push forward in the spiritual life
How each temperament faces unique temptations—and paths to virtue
What practical steps we can take to grow in holiness, right where we are

📖 Pick up a copy of Piety and Personality: The Temperaments of the Saints by Rosemary McGuire Berry through TAN Books or wherever books are sold.

📲 Follow Rosemary:

Website: rosemarymcguireberry.com
Substack: rosemarymcguireberry.substack.com
Instagram: @rosemarywriter

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