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May 2
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#084 Dreams And Disruption: The Future O...

Erwin McManus + Aaron McManus
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In this episode of the Mind Shift Podcast, Aaron McManus and Erwin McManus is joined by  Carlos Pimentel to unpack the surprising events following Mosaic’s Easter gatherings. With nearly 8,000 people attending across their campuses, the team had just celebrated one of their most impactful weekends. But within days, they received a 60-day notice to vacate their Hollywood location—a decision that shocked the entire community. The team acted quickly, informing leaders, volunteers, and supporters within 48 hours and beginning the process of charting a new course forward.


The conversation dives into the emotional weight of the news, especially given its timing—14 years to the day after Mosaic’s first Hollywood gathering. While the initial reaction was disbelief, the team quickly shifted toward vision and resolve. They emphasize the importance of perspective in leadership, choosing to see this disruption as a moment of divine transition rather than defeat. Erwin reflects on the need for resilience in ministry and the strength that comes from staying rooted in purpose amid uncertainty.


The episode also revisits Mosaic’s long journey with the Hollywood location. Erwin recounts the massive fundraising effort under the “Here to Stay” campaign and the tension of raising millions while still falling short of the full purchase price. Despite the loss of a culturally iconic and spiritually significant space, the team underscores the importance of embracing change, learning from every season, and letting go when necessary to move forward with clarity.


Looking ahead, the team discusses their shift from trying to preserve a single location to building new epicenters across Los Angeles and beyond. They talk about exploring alternative venues, rethinking what community looks like, and leaning into Mosaic’s identity as a movement, not just a place. The lessons learned from the pandemic, especially the need to stay agile and creative, continue to shape how they envision the church's next chapter.


Amid all the transition, excitement builds around the upcoming Mosaic Conference, themed “Dreams.” The event now serves as a marker of change and vision, offering the community a moment to rally together and imagine what comes next. Aaron and Erwin emphasize that this moment isn’t just about losing a space—it’s about gaining momentum. With open hearts and bold plans, they invite listeners to walk with them through uncertainty and into a future filled with possibility

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