logo
episode-header-image
Apr 2025
23m 40s

The Trial Mark Zuckerberg Couldn’t Preve...

The New York Times
About this episode

Testimonies began this week in one of the most aggressive cases the government has ever brought against a big tech company. Over the next eight weeks, the Federal Trade Commission will argue that Meta, the company founded by Mark Zuckerberg, should be broken up.

Cecilia Kang, who covers technology and regulatory policy, discusses the strange and contentious relationship between Mr. Zuckerberg and President Trump that has led to this moment, and what the case means for them.

Guest: Cecilia Kang, a reporter covering technology and regulatory policy for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. 

Photo: Tom Brenner for The New York Times

Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

Up next
Today
A Consequential Supreme Court Term Begins With a Conversion Therapy Case
Warning: this episode contains mentions of suicide.In one of the first cases of the Supreme Court’s new term, the justices considered whether to strike down a ban on conversion therapy, the contentious practice that aims to change a young person’s sexual orientation.Ann E. Marimo ... Show More
30m 29s
Yesterday
Trump Claims ‘Rebellion’ in American Cities
Over the past week, ICE and border patrol agents have clashed with Chicago residents, and federal guard troops arriving in the city might inflame tensions further.Julie Bosman, Chicago bureau chief for The Times, and Mattathias Schwartz describe the situation on the ground and ex ... Show More
34m 31s
Oct 7
Marriage and Sex in the Age of Ozempic
In the last few years, GLP-1 weight-loss drugs like Ozempic and Zepbound have been radically reshaping the people’s lives, changing appetites and health.But the drugs also have the power to affect other parts of consumers’ lives, including their romantic relationships.Lisa Miller ... Show More
37m 17s
Recommended Episodes
Apr 2025
Does Meta Have a Social Media Monopoly?
Mark Zuckerberg is in court defending Meta against a Federal Trade Commission case that alleges the company wields an illegal monopoly in social media. It's a trial that could force the tech giant to potentially break itself up by selling Instagram and WhatsApp. WSJ’s Dana Mattio ... Show More
21m 4s
Feb 2025
Mark Zuckerberg : le virage pro-Trump du patron de Facebook et Instagram
Mark Zuckerberg, le patron de Meta, qui détient Facebook et Instagram, a déclaré récemment la fin du fact-checking sur ses plateformes. Depuis quelques semaines, il multiplie les annonces et se rapproche du président des Etats-Unis, Donald Trump. Mark Zuckerberg était d’ailleurs ... Show More
24m 17s
Jan 2025
The New Zuckerberg
What’s going on with Mark Zuckerberg? He recently conspicuously pivoted toward MAGA, meeting quietly with incoming Trump officials, and complaining about the Biden administration on Joe Rogan’s podcast. This week, we trace the story of the Meta CEO, and investigate what his new p ... Show More
1h 16m
Apr 2025
Could Zuckerberg Be Forced To Sell Instagram?
Today, the trial opened on a long awaited antitrust case that could see Meta forced to sell two of its social media sites Instagram and WhatsApp, after being accused of creating a monopoly. Adam speaks to the BBC’s social media investigations correspondent Marianna Spring and Mar ... Show More
32m 22s
Jan 2025
Musk, Zuckerberg and Free Speech
The billionaire owner of X has made misleading claims about Keir Starmer’s handling of the grooming gangs scandal and Meta boss Mark Zuckerberg has announced the end of independent fact-checking on Meta’s platforms in the US. The move comes as Zuckerberg and other tech executives ... Show More
49m 22s
Apr 2025
Big Tech is back on trial
We promise, this episode is only a little bit about header bidding. Nilay and David are joined by The Verge’s Alex Heath to talk about some big news in tech regulation: Google lost its ad-tech monopoly trial, which could reshape both Google and the internet altogether. And that’s ... Show More
1h 55m
Sep 5
Elon Musk Unintentionally Reveals Why the iPhone Isn’t Going Anywhere
Elon Musk is fighting with Apple again, claiming in an antitrust lawsuit that the company’s App Store policies damage his own xAI business. WSJ columnist Tim Higgins says Musk’s suit demonstrates why AI is unlikely to make smartphones irrelevant anytime soon, despite the hopes of ... Show More
13m 13s
Jan 2025
De Musk à Zuckerberg, pourquoi les patrons de la tech se sont-ils convertis au trumpisme ?
Que se passe-t-il dans la tête des géants de la tech ? Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg ou encore Tim Cook… les uns après les autres, les dirigeants des plus grandes entreprises technologiques américaines suivent les pas du patron du réseau X, Elon Musk, en actant leur allégeance à Do ... Show More
23m 31s
Feb 2025
Elon Musk's DOGE Takes Control Of Federal Spending
Elon Musk is keeping his campaign promise of trying to cut $2 trillion of federal spending through his unit, DOGE. After some questions about his role, the White House announced that he is now a "special government employee." What has Musk been able to accomplish thus far? This e ... Show More
15m 3s
Sep 19
F.C.C. Head Says Kimmel Not ‘the Last Shoe to Drop,’ and Musk Goes All In on A.I.
Plus, your Friday news quiz. On Today’s Episode:Trump Pressures Broadcasters Over Critical Coverage, Escalating Attack on Speech, by Zolan Kanno-YoungsKennedy’s Advisory Panel Votes to Limit M.M.R.V. Vaccine for Children Under 4, by Apoorva MandavilliSince Leaving Washington, Elo ... Show More
14m 40s