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Mar 2025
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Campbel Harvey, Professor of Finance, Fu...

Dean Curnutt
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Best known for his seminal work on the information content of the US Treasury yield curve nearly 4 decades ago, Campbell Harvey has produced meaningful academic research in all corners of empirical finance. In this episode of the Alpha Exchange, I caught up with Campbell, now a Professor of Finance at Duke and Partner at Research Affiliates, on his recent work on gold, an asset near and dear to me. We discuss his piece “Is There Still a Golden Dilemma?", with Claude Erb that updates work they did back in 2013 on the yellow metal.

Our conversation explores the financial properties of gold, with emphasis on its capacity to hold its purchasing power and to help defend against equity market drawdowns. On the first, Campbell makes the point that over the past two decades, gold has easily outperformed inflation. He adds, however, that gold is considerably more volatile than inflation is. Thus, there are periods when gold can also underperform inflation. On the equity drawdown front, Campbell’s work shows that, while not an explicit hedge like an S&P 500 put option is, gold has proven durable during risk-off periods.

We move to the drivers of the gold price and here Campbell discusses the role of both ETFs and Central Banks. Lastly, and importantly, Campbell’s work shows that entry price matters. When the price of gold deviates from fair value, the forward return profile tends to be worse. Today’s substantial rally may easily continue, but investors must be mindful of the risks of buying at extended levels.

I hope you enjoy this episode of the Alpha Exchange, my conversation with Campbell Harvey.

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