In his recent address before Congress, President Trump talked once again about his big ambitions for Greenland.

He told the icebound island’s “incredible people” that he supported their right to determine their future. But he ended his message with a threat, declaring, “One way or the other we are going to get it.”

Jeffrey Gettleman, an international correspondent for The New York Times who recently traveled to the island, explains what Mr. Trump wants from Greenland, and whether he may actually get it.

Guest: Jeffrey Gettleman, an international correspondent for The New York Times, based in London and covering global events.

Background reading:

Trump said the U.S. would “get” Greenland. Greenlanders were not impressed.
Jeffrey Gettleman spent 12 days reporting around Greenland about its big moment.
The harsh reality behind the glittering promise of Greenland’s minerals.

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