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Mar 2025
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The Iceberg of Digital Evidence: What AI...

Heather Charpentier & Alexis "Brigs" Brignoni
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The boundary between tool-dependent analysis and true forensic expertise grows increasingly blurred as AI enters the digital forensics landscape. Alexis Brignoni and Heather Charpentier reunite after a month-long hiatus to sound the alarm on a concerning trend: the integration of generative AI into forensic tools without adequate safeguards for verification and validation.

Drawing from Stacey Eldridge's firsthand experience, they reveal how AI outputs can be dangerously inconsistent, potentially creating false positives (or missing critical evidence) while providing no reduction in examination time if proper verification procedures are followed. This presents investigators with a troubling choice: trust AI results and save time but risk severe legal and professional consequences, or verify everything and negate the promised efficiency benefits. The hosts warn that as AI becomes ubiquitous in forensic tools, it dramatically expands the attack surface for challenging evidence in court—especially when there's no traceability of AI prompts, responses, or error rates.

Beyond the AI discussion, the episode delivers practical insights for investigators, including an in-depth look at the Android gallery trash functionality. When users delete photos, these files remain in a dedicated trash directory for 30 days with their original paths and deletion timestamps fully preserved in the local DB database—a forensic goldmine for cases where suspects attempt to eliminate evidence shortly before investigators arrive. Other highlights include recent updates to the Unfurl tool for URL analysis, Parse SMS for recovering edited and unsent iOS messages, and Josh Hickman's research on Apple CarPlay forensics.

Whether you're investigating distracted driving cases, analyzing group calls on iOS, or simply trying to navigate the increasingly complex digital evidence landscape, this episode offers both cautionary wisdom and practical techniques to enhance your forensic capabilities. Join the conversation as we explore what it truly means to be a digital forensic expert in an age of increasing automation.

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Notes:

Magnet Virtual Summit Presentations
https://www.magnetforensics.com/magnet-virtual-summit-2025-replays/
https://www.stark4n6.com/2025/03/magnet-virtual-summit-2025-ctf-android.html

parse_smsdb
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/alberthui_ios-16-allows-for-imessagesmsmmsrcs-message-activity-7279586088988413952-xHWl
https://github.com/h4x0r/parse_sms.db/tree/main

Are you a DF/IR Expert Witness or Just a Useful Pawn?
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dfir-training_a-pawn-moves-where-its-told-a-dfir-expert-activity-7292981112463572992-c3wd/

Unfurl
https://dfir.blog/unfurl-parses-obfuscated-ip-addresses/
https://github.com/obsidianforensics/unfurl

AI to Summarize Chat Logs and Audio from Seized Mobile Phones
https://www.404media.co/cellebrite-is-using-ai-to-summarize-chat-logs-and-audio-from-seized-mobile-phones/

Ridin' With Apple CarPlay 2
https://thebinaryhick.blog/2025/02/19/ridin-with-apple-carplay-2/

Hello Who is on the Line?
https://metadataperspective.com/2025/02/05/hello-who-is-on-the-line/


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