logo
episode-header-image
Feb 2025
1h 4m

TIVP008: VeriSign (VRSN): The Internet’s...

The Investor's Podcast Network
About this episode

In today’s episode, Shawn O’Malley (@Shawn_OMalley_) breaks down VeriSign, a company that underpins the functioning of the internet. VeriSign acts like a toll road, collecting fees from anyone using website domains ending in .com or .net, in exchange for managing the global domain registry system and making these domains accessible.


VeriSign is a fascinating company with the fifth-highest profit margins in the S&P 500, and its shares have been increasingly snapped up by Berkshire Hathaway of late, which has become its largest shareholder. You’ll learn how VeriSign was granted its monopoly, how it supports internet infrastructure, and whether the stock is attractively valued, plus so much more!


Prefer to watch? Click here to watch this episode on YouTube.


IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN

00:00 - Intro

02:29 - How VeriSign sits at the foundation of the world’s internet.

07:22 - Why VeriSign is legally permitted to have a monopoly over the .com & .net website domains.

08:40 - How VeriSign is like a toll road by getting paid by any website ending in .com.

12:29 - What VeriSign does with its ample cash flows.

13:34 - How domain registration works and how VeriSign relies on sites like GoDaddy to drive more domain registrations.

13:44 - Why VeriSign’s monopoly likely isn’t going anywhere.

32:26 - The biggest risks, from cyberattacks to terrorism, threatening the company’s operations.

45:39 - How to think about the company’s intrinsic value and how expected returns fluctuate based on your purchase price per share.

51:15 - Whether Shawn adds VeriSign to The Intrinsic Value Portfolio.


*Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences.


BOOKS AND RESOURCES

  • Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Kyle and the other community members.
  • Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, The Intrinsic Value Newsletter.
  • Check out our discussion of VeriSign in the Q1 2025 Mastermind episode on We Study Billionaires | YouTube Video.
  • Value Investors Club pitch for VRSN.
  • Read the article on Berkshire’s acquisitions of VRSN shares.
  • The difference between ICANN and VeriSign, explained.
  • Explore Myths & facts about VeriSign.
  • See here on how to attend the 2025 Berkshire Hathaway shareholder’s meeting and meet-ups with The Investor’s Podcast Network
  • Check out the books mentioned in the podcast here.
  • Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our Premium Feed.


NEW TO THE SHOW?


SPONSORS

Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors:


Connect with Shawn: Twitter | LinkedIn | Email


HELP US OUT!

Help us reach new listeners by leaving us a rating and review on Spotify! It takes less than 30 seconds and really helps our show grow, which allows us to bring on even better guests for you all! Thank you – we really appreciate it! 

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

Up next
Oct 5
TIVP040: Manchester United (MANU): Valuing a Football Empire w/ Daniel Mahncke & Shawn O’Malley
Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley dive into Manchester United, the legendary football club that’s grown from a 19th-century railway team into one of the most recognized sports brands on the planet. With revenue pillars in commercial sponsorships, broadcasting rights, and matchday ... Show More
1h 12m
Sep 28
TIVP039: Universal Music Group (UMG): Owning The World’s Music Catalog w/ Shawn O’Malley & Daniel Mahncke
Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahncke break down Universal Music Group (ticker: UMG), a company that controls a royalty stream on roughly ⅓ of the world’s music in an oligopolistic industry also dominated by Sony and Warner Music Group. Universal has incredibly high-quality earnings, ... Show More
1h 27m
Sep 21
TIVP038: Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.B): From Buffett to Abel w/ Daniel Mahncke & Shawn O’Malley
Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley dive into Berkshire Hathaway, the billion-dollar conglomerate built by Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger that’s grown from a struggling textile mill into one of the most valuable companies in the world. With core pillars in insurance, railroads, ... Show More
1h 23m
Recommended Episodes
Sep 2024
TIP659: Hermès Stock Deep Dive w/ Shree Viswanathan
On today’s episode, Clay is joined by Shree Viswanathan for a stock deep dive on Hermès. Hermès is a luxury goods manufacturer renowned for its high-quality craftsmanship. The brand is known for its iconic products, such as the Birkin and Kelly bags, silk scarves, and equestrian- ... Show More
1h 42m
Dec 2024
TIP686: Big Tech Stocks w/ Adam Seessel
On today’s episode, Clay is joined by Adam Seessel to discuss the developments of Big Tech over the past couple of years. Adam is an investor in Alphabet and Amazon, and in this discussion, he shares his updated thoughts on the two since he published his book, Where the Money Is, ... Show More
1h 3m
May 2025
TIP723: The Art of Buying Growth Companies for Value Prices w/ Jim Zimmerman and Abigail Zimmerman
On today’s episode, Kyle Grieve chats with James and Abigail Zimmerman about the strength of growing and sustainable cash flowing businesses; the importance of strong balance sheets; how they navigate their circle of competence, and the steps they take to expand it; why simplicit ... Show More
1h 17m
Aug 2024
RWH048: Betting Billions On Outlier Talent w/ Adam Shapiro
In this episode, William Green chats with Adam Shapiro, Managing Partner at East Rock Capital. Adam oversees billions on behalf of eight vastly rich families, allocating their assets to everything from hedge funds to private equity. Here, he explains how to build & safeguard weal ... Show More
2h 3m
Nov 2024
TIP677: You Can Be a Stock Market Genius w/ Roger Fan
On today’s episode, Clay is joined by Roger Fan to discuss Joel Greenblatt’s book, “You can be a Stock Market Genius.” Joel Greenblatt is one of the greatest hedge fund managers of all time. Greenblatt famously averaged 40% a year over 20 years. At that rate, $1 million grows int ... Show More
1h 17m
Apr 2025
TIP714: Bet Big, Bet Rarely: The Dhandho Investing Playbook w/ Kyle Grieve
On today’s episode, Kyle Grieve dives deep into Mohnish Pabrai’s The Dhandho Investor, unpacking its nine core principles through vivid case studies and personal reflections to help investors embrace simplicity, asymmetric bets, and the power of cloning proven ideas. IN THIS EPIS ... Show More
1h 9m
May 2025
TIP720: Investing Against The Tide
On today’s episode, Kyle Grieve breaks down the contrarian investing philosophy of Anthony Bolton, revealing how he consistently outperformed the market by combining sentiment analysis, in-depth fundamental research, and a flexible yet disciplined portfolio strategy. IN THIS EPIS ... Show More
1h 8m
May 2025
TIP719: Investing and Life Lessons w/ Mohnish Pabrai
On today’s show, Stig Brodersen talks with legend value investor Mohnish Pabrai. Since its inception in 1999, one dollar invested in the flagship fund would have turned into $13.63 vs. $6.19 for the S&P 500. In the special interview, you can join Mohnish and Stig’s metaphorical r ... Show More
1h 18m
Aug 2024
TIP656: Mastering Stock Selection with an Investment Checklist w/ Clay Finck
On today’s episode, Clay offers a detailed guide on creating an investment checklist to help you avoid picking losing stocks. An investment checklist, paired with thorough fundamental analysis, is crucial for making informed and intelligent decisions in the investing world. Great ... Show More
1h 18m
May 2025
TIP724: Key Insights From Coca-Cola's Golden Era
On today’s episode, Kyle Grieve chats about one of the most iconic businesses in history—Coca-Cola—and explores its enduring competitive advantages, its remarkable turnaround under CEO Roberto Goizueta, and what Warren Buffett saw that made it one of Berkshire Hathaway’s most leg ... Show More
1h 8m