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Feb 2025
1h 30m

#00 - Daniel Schmachtenberger - AI, Capi...

Liv Boeree
About this episode

A deep dive into the game theory and exponential growth underlying our modern economic system, and how recent advancements in AI are poised to turn up the pressure on that system -- and our wider environment -- in ways we have never seen before. Not a conversation for the faint hearted, but crucial nonetheless. Daniel Schmachtenberger is a founding member of The Consilience Project, a research organization aimed at improving public sense-making around global catastrophic risks and technology. This conversation is the first episode of the Win-Win Podcast, which explores healthier ways to harness the power of competition.


Chapters:

00:00 - Introduction

02:17 - Moloch Framework

12:16 - Meta Crisis

26:48 - Bad People or Bad System?

31:09 - Capitalism & Moloch

40:08 - Misalignment

51:31 - Incentive Pressures Driving Misalignment

57:58 - Moloch Driving AI Development

01:00:50 - AI Risks Pre AGI

01:07:31 - AI Accelerates Existing Systemic Issues

01:15:35 - Social Media01:19:07 - Alternative Goals

01:23:56 - Cooperation on AI

01:28:16 - Call to Action


Daniel's Links

♾️ The Consilience Project: https://consilienceproject.org

♾️ Green Pill | The Metacrisis:    • The Metacrisis with Daniel Schmachten...  

♾️ Bend Not Break series |    • Daniel Schmachtenberger “Bend Not Bre...  

♾️ Meditations on Moloch by SlateStarCodex: https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch/


♾️ The Win-Win Podcast:Poker champion Liv Boeree takes to the interview chair to tease apart the complexities of one of the most fundamental parts of human nature: competition. Liv is joined by top philosophers, gamers, artists, technologists, CEOs, scientists, athletes and more to understand how competition manifests in their world, and how to change seemingly win-lose games into Win-Wins.

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