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Feb 2025
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Eddie Jones: Coaching the Lions? England...

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The latest episode of Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, sees Eddie Jones join David Flatman, Lawrence Dallaglio, Katy Daley-McLean, and Tom Shanklin for a brutally honest chat about his coaching career, England exit, and what he’d do differently.


Eddie opens up about his time as England head coach, reflecting on the highs and lows, why the team’s playing style became so unpopular, and how they lost their identity. He reveals what really happened in the 2019 World Cup final, whether he should have started Joe Marler, and why England were booed for their kicking game.


The debate heats up as Eddie discusses the British & Irish Lions job—was he ever really interested? He also breaks down his relationship with Steve Borthwick, what advice he’d give him now, and why he believes the England job is the toughest in rugby.


Beyond England, Eddie reflects on his Japan dream job, the influence of Bob Dwyer, and the key coaching lessons he’s learned. He lifts the lid on England’s leadership over the years, including the dynamic between Dylan Hartley and Owen Farrell, and shares his take on the future of international rugby.


A no-filter Eddie Jones interview you won’t want to miss.


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