logo
episode-header-image
Jan 2025
47m 38s

Training for Victory: Lessons for Securi...

Irregular Warfare Initiative
About this episode

Episode 123 explores the critical role of security force assistance (SFA) and identifies the key factors that influence the effectiveness of building foreign armies. 

Our guests start by situating SFA within the broader context of Washington’s national security strategy. They then analyze the variables that impact the success of security assistance, including the importance of language proficiency, advisor-to-force ratios, and the role of combat advising in shaping outcomes. Finally, they offer actionable recommendations for practitioners and policymakers to enhance the effectiveness of security force assistance in the future.

Dr. Frank Sobchak is a retired Special Forces colonel who served in various assignments in war and peace during his 26-year military career. He is Chair of Irregular Warfare Studies at the Modern War Institute and serves as a Senior Fellow at the Global and National Security Institute. Dr. Sobchak’s newly published book, “Training for Victory,” examines security force assistance and serves as the anchor for today’s conversation.

JoAnn Naumann currently serves as the USASOC Command Sergeant Major. Over the course of her 28-year career, she has completed over fourteen deployments throughout the Middle East and Africa, and has served as the senior enlisted advisor for multiple organizations within the Special Operations community. CSM Naumann holds a bachelor’s degree from the College of William & Mary. 

Up next
Aug 22
Winning Without Fighting: Economic Power and Information Warfare (Part 2)
Episode 133 is the second installment in our two-part series exploring how the United States can leverage non-kinetic instruments of power to compete effectively without resorting to military force. Building on our previous discussion, our guests examine America's strategic blind ... Show More
38m 36s
Aug 8
Winning Without Fighting: Strategic Culture and Gray Zone Competition (Part 1)
Episode 132 of the Irregular Warfare Podcast explores how strategic culture shapes approaches to irregular warfare and competition in the gray zone. This is part one of a two-part series examining why nations conceptualize irregular warfare differently and how cultural biases aff ... Show More
37m 52s
Aug 8
Winning Without Fighting: Strategic Culture and Gray Zone Competition (Part 1)
Episode 132 of the Irregular Warfare Podcast explores how strategic culture shapes approaches to irregular warfare and competition in the gray zone. This is part one of a two-part series examining why nations conceptualize irregular warfare differently and how cultural biases aff ... Show More
37m 52s
Recommended Episodes
Oct 2024
October 1993
Thirty years ago this week—on October 3, 1993—US special operations forces launched a mission in Mogadishu. It was part of Operation Gothic Serpent, which was aimed at capturing Somali warlord Mohamed Farrah Aidid. The mission was intended to be of a short duration. But things ch ... Show More
1h 20m
Feb 2025
#177 Captain Brad Geary - The Sinister Games the Military Plays in Hiding the Truth
Captain Bradley Geary is a Navy SEAL officer with a distinguished 24-year career in Naval Special Warfare. He graduated from the United States Naval Academy in 2000 with a Bachelor's degree in Mathematics and completed SEAL Qualification Training with class 234. Geary has served ... Show More
2h 5m
Feb 2025
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Jared Hudson served as a SEAL Operator and sniper with Naval Special Warfare, with deployments in Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom. He founded The Shooting Institute (TSI), providing tactical training to law enforcement, military, and civilians, and Covenant ... Show More
3h 40m
Dec 2024
468: Some Lessons Only Life Can Teach. With Sean Glass.
>Join Jocko Underground<Sean Glass is a former U.S. Navy SEAL officer, combat leader, and now a leadership instructor with Echelon Front. Sean spent 13 years in the SEAL Teams with three combat deployments to Afghanistan, Iraq, and Eastern Africa. He led five SEAL platoons in Ira ... Show More
3h 8m
Apr 2025
#193 John Stryker Meyer - MACV-SOG: The Secret War in Vietnam
John Stryker Meyer is a decorated Green Beret who served two tours in Vietnam (1968-1969 and 1969-1970) with the Military Assistance Command, Vietnam – Studies and Observations Group(MACV-SOG). Enlisting in 1966, he earned his Special Forces tab in 1967 and joined Spike Team Idah ... Show More
4h 7m
Apr 2020
Special Edition: The U.S. Army and National Security
To address an increasingly complex and challenging international security environment, the U.S. Army is undertaking a massive restructuring—the likes of which has not been seen for decades. Objectives range from fielding new and innovative weapons to stay ahead of potential adver ... Show More
35m 56s
Jan 2024
The Devolution of Command
Having an intelligent conversation about command and control requires a discussion with the USMC, the same institution that gave us the current C2 taxonomy back in the 1980s. While USMC force design 2030 leans towards a decentralised command structure and an aggregated control hi ... Show More
34 m
Jan 2024
From Unconventional Warfare to Hybrid Warfare with former SF Operator Curtis Fox - Episode 45
Welcome back to the Grey Dynamics Podcast! Today, we are talking to Curtis Fox, former Green Beret, author, graduate of Georgetown University and currently a program manager. His book 'Hybrid Warfare: The Russian Approach To Strategic Competition & Conventional Military Conflict' ... Show More
1h 26m
Apr 2024
Long-range strike in the Indo-Pacific defence landscape
In the first Sounds Strategic episode of 2024, host Meia Nouwens is joined by Veerle Nouwens, Dr Evan A. Laksmana and Timothy Wright to discuss the Indo-Pacific security landscape. The IISS experts explore the developments in the US-China relationship, Southeast Asian military mo ... Show More
30m 51s