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Nov 2024
8m 36s

Time to rethink design systems 💡

Ridd
About this episode

The pendulum has swung too far with design systems. Somehow they’ve become synonymous with scale. But I believe they’re the perfect first step for startups. So this episode looks at stories from Perplexity and Cron to reframe design systems as the key to speed in the early days.

Henry Modisett (Head of Design at Perplexity): https://www.dive.club/deep-dives/henry-modisett

Raphael Schaad (founder of Cron / Notion Calendar): https://www.dive.club/deep-dives/raphael-schaad

Brad Frost (author of Atomic Design): https://www.dive.club/deep-dives/brad-frost

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