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Nov 2024
1h 18m

America’s reactionary moment

Vox
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What just happened?

It’s been almost two weeks since the presidential election, and many Americans are still grappling with the result. The political reckoning will probably last for months, if not years, and we may never know exactly why voters made the choices they did. But one thing is clear: the roughly 75 million people who voted for Trump were saying “No” to something. So what were they rejecting?

Today’s guest is Zack Beauchamp, Vox senior correspondent and author of The Reactionary Spirit: How America's Most Insidious Political Tradition Swept the World. It’s a book about democracy and the contradictions and conflicts at the heart of it.

Beauchamp speaks with host Sean Illing about America’s growing reactionary movement and what it could mean for the country’s political future.

Host: Sean Illing (@SeanIlling), host, The Gray Area

Guest: Zack Beauchamp, Vox senior correspondent and author of The Reactionary Spirit: How America's Most Insidious Political Tradition Swept the World.

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