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Oct 2024
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Normal Trump vs. Dangerous Trump

POLITICO
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Election Day is less than two weeks away. And Donald Trump has been employing an innovative strategy to keep Democrats’ — and an increasingly large number of Republicans’ — doubts about his fitness for office at bay. The former president has been burnishing his image on a nontraditional media spread of podcasts, golf outings, and shifts working at McDonald's. 


To understand Trump’s own thinking about the campaign, including the risks of this unorthodox strategy and the most recent indictments of his character, Playbook co-author Rachael Bade sat down with one of his most trusted advisers: Jason Miller.


Miller and Trump have a long history together. He’s worked on each of Trump’s campaigns since 2016, in roles ranging from comms guru to senior strategist, and he isn’t afraid to elaborate on the campaign’s strategy or defend Trump’s most controversial comments.


Rachael Bade is a Playbook co-author for POLITICO.

Jason Miller is a senior adviser to President Donald Trump.

Kara Tabor is a producer for POLITICO audio. 

Alex Keeney is a senior producer for POLITICO audio.

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