logo
episode-header-image
Oct 2024
1h 34m

640: Holy Post LIVE from Chicago with Ch...

PHIL VISCHER
About this episode

Today's episode is all content from our recent live event in Chicago. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the rapid shift in public opinion about immigration—and it's not just among Republicans. Why is support for immigration down dramatically among Democrats and independents too? Then Charlie Dates, the pastor of Progressive Baptist Church and Salem Baptist Church in Chicago, joins the show to talk about the widening divide between the black church and white evangelicalism, why he's tired of talking about white evangelicals, and where he sees hope for the future of the church in the U.S. And Holy Post producer, Mike Stralow, challenges the hosts to a quiz show decathlon. Plus, Al Pacino says there's no afterlife, and scientists discover strategically constipated tadpoles.

 

Head over to Holy Post Plus for the full unedited version:

https://www.patreon.com/posts/holy-post-live-114053943

 

0:00 - Intro

 

1:50   - Show Starts

 

2:23 - Theme Song

 

4:14 - Al Pacino Didn't Go to Heaven

 

8:36 - News of the Butt: Strategically Constipated Tadpoles

 

15:42 - Public Opinion Shift on Immigration

 

19:35 - Thermostatic Public Opinion

 

24:00 -  How the Church Can Approach Division

 

34:23 - Sponsor - The National Association of Evangelicals - Listen to the Difficult to explore how Christians can become peacemakers. Go to https://www.nae.org/introduction-difficult-conversations-podcast-series/ to check it out!

 

35:32- Sponsor - The Pour Over - Stay informed while remaining focused on Christ with The Pour Over Today. Check it out at https://link.chtbl.com/The-Pour-Over-Today

 

36:43 - Interview with Charlie Dates

 

39:47 - The Black Church and Political Polarization

 

46:50 - Why Talk Specifically About "The Black Church" Rather Than Just "The Church?"

 

55:20 - Cynicism and White Naivete

 

1:04:50 - Pastors Excluded from Activism

 

1:12:43  - Sponsor - The Fresh Pressed Olive Oil Club - To get a Full-Size artisanal olive oil for just $1 shipping, go to https://www.GetFreshHOLYPOST.com

 

1:13:52 - Sponsor - Faithful Counseling - This episode is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. Give online therapy a try at https://www.faithfulcounseling.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off

 

1:14:58 - What Would 2024 Skye and Phil Tell 2012 Skye and Phil?

 

1:19:13 - What Would 2024 Kaitlyn and Charlie Tell 2012 Kaitlyn and Charlie?

 

1:34:26 - End Credits  

 

Links Mentioned in the News Segment:

Al Pacino's Near Death Experience:

https://www.avclub.com/al-pacino-near-death-experience

 

Tadpoles Hold in Their Poop:

https://phys.org/news/2024-09-tree-frog-tadpoles-unique-contaminating.html

 

Thermostatic Politics:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/immigration-public-opinion-reversal/680196/

 

Other resources:

Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/

Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus

Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost

Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop

 

The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.

 

Up next
Nov 19
696: Transcending Our Political Divisions & Labels with Andy Beshear
<p dir="ltr">Mike Erre joins Phil and Skye to discuss a New York Times column by David Brooks. He says America's divisions will only heal when we abandon shallow labels and war metaphors, and instead see one another as fellow pilgrims on a journey. America's Catholic bishops issu ... Show More
1h 25m
Nov 12
695: Analyzing the Blue Wave & Why the Church Still Matters with Carmen Joy Imes
The Democratic Party swept the off-cycle elections last week, but this isn't the first blue wave we've seen in the Trump era. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss what it means and the significance of New York City electing a Muslim, democratic socialist as mayor. Does Mamdani represe ... Show More
1h 27m
Nov 7
French Friday: The Nazi Rot on the Right
Open Nazi rhetoric is gaining traction on the right, and the response from conservative institutions has been inconsistent at best. Skye and David trace the roots of the problem, the incentives that fueled it, and the late-breaking backlash that may signal a tipping point. They a ... Show More
27m 43s
Recommended Episodes
Sep 2024
Have evangelical leaders sold out to a progressive secular agenda? Megan Basham vs Krish Kandiah hosted by Billy Hallowell
In this episode of Unbelievable host Billy Halliwell moderates a debate between author and journalist Megan Basham and social entrepreneur Krish Kandiah. They explore the intersection of evangelicalism and progressive politics, discussing topics such as the implications of secula ... Show More
1h 13m
Jun 2025
Cultural Update: Why Don't We Feel We're Thriving?; The End of Rainbow Capitalism; Democratic Socialism
<p>This week, Scott is joined by Talbot professor Thaddeus Williams to discuss: </p><p><b>Why Don’t We Feel We&apos;re Thriving?</b> — Despite living in the most prosperous era of human history, many <a href='https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/20/opinion/grateful-thanks-america-envy ... Show More
57m 21s
Sep 4
#233 Nathan Apffel - Inside the Dark World of Megachurches and Corrupt Pastors
Nathan Apffel is a Christian, filmmaker, entrepreneur, and director of The Religion Business, a multi-part docuseries that exposes the financial practices and lack of accountability in Western religion, particularly Christianity. Drawing from personal experiences with church scan ... Show More
2h 50m
Jun 2024
YOU Should LEAVE Your Church OVER THIS!
<p>Within the Christian circuit there have become different stances on homosexuality. On this episode of Radical Radio, Robby sits down and goes through what the Bible actually says in regards to Homosexuality. Whether your church affirms it, does not support it, or doesn’t comm ... Show More
41m 9s
Sep 2024
E147: Why He Stood Alone For God w/NBA Star Jonathan Isaac
We all remember the historic moment in 2020 when the entire Orlando Magic team was kneeling during the national anthem in solidarity with Black Lives Matter, save one brave player. The name of that player was Jonathan Issac and today we welcome him on the show to learn more about ... Show More
36m 13s
Nov 2024
Electioneering
Final presidential campaign days, screen-free churches, and the work of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency in Gaza. Find us on Youtube. This week on the show, Clarissa, Mike, and Russell talk about campaign trail updates with less than a week before the presidential elect ... Show More
54m 20s
Jul 2025
Spiritual Atheism & Religious Deconstruction (w/ Britt Hartley)
If belief dies, can wonder survive? Britt Hartley (author of No Nonsense Spirituality) digs into her journey from devout Mormonism to mystic atheism, her deconstruction of religious dogma, and her experience of profound nihilism after losing belief in God. THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSO ... Show More
1h 32m
May 2025
7 Things Protestants Misunderstand About Christianity (Dr. John Bergsma) | Ep. 523
Dr. John Bergsma is a Full Professor of Theology at the Franciscan University of Steubenville, in Steubenville, Ohio. He served as a Protestant pastor for four years before entering the Catholic Church in 2001 while pursuing a Ph.D. in Theology from the University of Notre Dame. ... Show More
4h 7m
Oct 2024
The Occult, Vatican Secrets, and The Mysticism of Pope St John Paul II (Jason Evert) | Ep. 491
<p>Jason Evert is a renowned Catholic author and speaker, best known for his work promoting chastity among teens and young adults. He is the co-founder of the Chastity Project and Totus Tuus Press. With a Master's degree in Theology from Franciscan University of Steubenville, Eve ... Show More
3h 14m
Apr 2025
S5 37: Was the Resurrection Real? With Sean McDowell
<div class="OutlineElement Ltr SCXW74488772 BCX0"> <p class="Paragraph SCXW74488772 BCX0"><span class= "TextRun SCXW74488772 BCX0" lang="EN-US" xml:lang="EN-US" data-contrast="none"><span class= "NormalTextRun SCXW74488772 BCX0">Christianity</span> <span class= "NormalTextRun SCX ... Show More
43m 19s