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Sep 2024
31m 46s

CISO vs. Security Engineer

Dr. Eric Cole
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In this episode of Life of a CISO, Dr. Eric Cole dives into the significant differences between security engineers and chief information security officers, a distinction many fail to recognize. He explains that merging these two roles into the same career track is one of the core issues plaguing the cybersecurity industry today. Security engineers are technical experts focused on identifying vulnerabilities and solving problems from a risk-based perspective, but a CISO's role is far more strategic. The CISO must bridge the gap between cybersecurity and business, speaking the language of the executives and aligning security initiatives with the company's overall growth and profitability goals. Many businesses struggle because their CISOs come from a deeply technical background without the necessary training in business, which causes a breakdown in communication between the executives and cybersecurity teams.

Dr. Cole stresses that the career paths of a security engineer and a CISO are not just different—they require distinct mindsets. While security engineers are problem finders, world-class CISOs are problem solvers, often accepting a level of risk that technical engineers might find unacceptable. This difference in approach is critical to the success of any organization's cybersecurity efforts. Dr. Cole emphasizes the importance of retraining the industry to understand that being a CISO is not a natural progression from a security engineer role, but a separate career path that requires a deep understanding of both business and security. He encourages aspiring CISOs to embrace this mindset shift and focus on communicating security in a way that drives business success.

 

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