815: Deno 2 with Ryan Dahl

In this episode of Syntax, Wes and Scott talk with Ryan Dahl about Deno 2.0, its new features and use of web standards, and how it seamlessly integrates with popular frameworks like Next.js. Ryan shares insights on the motivations behind Deno’s creation, its emphasis on simplicity and security, and offers his take on the evolving JavaScript ecosystem.

Show Notes

• 00:00 Welcome to Syntax!
• 00:34 What is Deno?
• 05:08 Deno 2.0
• 07:49 NPM compatibility
• 09:40 What parts of Node aren’t doable in Deno?
• 11:22 Do we need a hard break from Require?
• 13:51 Package management
• 16:25 Security and performance benefits of Deno
• 20:57 Brought to you by Sentry.io
• 20:57 Thoughts on Bun and Node additions
• 26:25 Ryan’s favorite Deno projects
  • Lume
  • Fresh
  • webgpu-examples
  • gpucraft minecraft clone + deno + webgpu
  • gpucraft example
  • Shaderplay
  • Orillusion
• 28:42 Will we ever see a unified file system API?
• 31:49 Typescript
• 36:12 Jupyter Notebooks with Deno
  • Polars
• 39:11 AI and WASM in JavaScript
• 42:01 Deno 2.0 features and future
• 43:08 Sick Picks & Shameless Plugs

Sick Picks

• Ryan: McCarren Park

Shameless Plugs

• Ryan: https://deno.com/enterprise

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