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Aug 2024
9m 7s

Nazis in Egypt

Bbc World Service
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After World War Two, Egypt’s government recruited thousands of Nazis and their collaborators to bolster the country’s defence and security.

This was part of Egyptian President Nasser’s efforts to modernise the country and present himself as the leader of the Arab world in its conflict with Israel.

Johann Von Leers was one of Adolf Hitler’s Nazi propagandists. Nasser’s government recruited him in 1956 to lead Egypt’s antisemitic propaganda machine.

Frank Gelli was a member of a far-right group in Italy at the time. He was sent to meet Von Leers in Cairo in 1964. He tells Ben Henderson about their conversation.

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(Photo: Johann von Leers. Credit: Bernd Settnik/BArch/CC-BY-SA 3.0)

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