Today, I’m talking to Jonathan Kanter, the assistant attorney general for antitrust at the United States Department of Justice. This is Jonathan’s second time on the show, and it’s a bit of an emergency podcast situation. On Monday, a federal court issued a monumental decision in the DOJ’s case against Google, holding that Google Search and the text ads in s ... Show More
Apr 20
Canva's CEO on its big pivot to AI enterprise software
The last time Canva CEO Melanie Perkins was on Decoder, the company was starting a big push into enterprise. Now, she's leading it through a total reinvention, going, in Canva's words, "from a design platform with AI tools to an AI platform with design tools." But there's a lot o ... Show More
1h 6m
Apr 16
Ronan Farrow on Sam Altman's "unconstrained" relationship with the truth
Today I’m talking with Ronan Farrow, one of the biggest stars of investigative reporting working today. He broke the Harvey Weinstein story, among many, many others. Just last week, he and co-author Andrew Marantz published an incredible deep-dive feature in The New Yorker about ... Show More
1h 2m
Aug 2024
Google lost its first antitrust case, so what happens next?
The Verge's Nilay Patel, Alex Cranz, Alex Heath, and Lauren Feiner discuss a federal judge ruling that Google violated US antitrust law, X suing a group of major advertisers over an “illegal boycott”, and the rest of this week's wild tech news. Further reading: Judge rules that G ... Show More
1h 23m
Nov 2023
Antitrust in America (classic)
Earlier this fall, the Federal Trade Commission filed a high-stakes lawsuit against Amazon.In that suit, the FTC claims Amazon is a monopoly, and it accuses the company of using anti-competitive tactics to hold onto its market power. It's a big case, with implications for consume ... Show More
40m 17s
Aug 2024
Google’s Monopoly Money + Is the A.I. Bubble Popping? + The Hot-Mess Express
<p>This week, a federal judge ruled that Google acted illegally to maintain a monopoly in online search. David McCabe, a New York Times reporter, joins to discuss what happens next. Then, are we in an A.I. bubble? We weigh in on the wild market swings that started the week and co ... Show More
1h 13m
Sep 2025
The Landmark Google Antitrust Ruling
<p>For decades, the government has struggled with how to police monopolies in the tech industry.</p><p>This week, a landmark ruling in a case against Google became the most aggressive attempt in the modern era to level the playing field.</p><p>David McCabe, who covers tech policy ... Show More
25m 21s