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Aug 2024
35m 13s

Looking at Organizations Through the Beh...

Shira Karpel & Shayna Gaunt
About this episode

Dr. Paul “Paulie” Gavoni is a renowned behavior scientist and leader and has significantly influenced human performance and organizational leadership for nearly 30 years. He’s a director at PCMA, a keynote speaker, and a WSJ and USA Today best-selling author. Specializing in organizational behavior management, Dr. Paulie addresses critical issues in education with a direct, solution-focused approach grounded in behavioral science. He advocates for high performing, engaging environments, extending his influence beyond education.

Here, Dr. Paulie shares all about his background and his journey to where he is today. He shares his insights into looking at organizational dynamics through a behavioral lens and the similarities between ABA and OBM. We also discuss the importance of creating buy in from teachers when adhering to behavior plans, the power of internal motivation and values-based systems, tips for BCBAs transitioning into leadership positions, and more.

What’s Inside:

  • Why it’s important to get buy-in from teachers and staff 
  • Tips for BCBAs transitioning into leadership positions
  • Dr. Paulie’s 5 step process for accurate and honest assessments

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