In the latest Times Radio Focus Group, 2019 Conservative voters explain why they have switched to Labour, but have very low expectations of Keir Starmer as PM.
James Johnson from JL Partners tells Matt how this could present an opportunity to an incoming government,.
PLUS: Columnists Manveen Rana and Matthew Parris discuss the state of the election race so far, Labour luvvies and Rishi Sunak as the voice of self service tesco checkouts.
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